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7.77 seconds to 60 mph for the 14 CRD per tflcar.com, FWIW
Which engine?
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The oil burner.
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

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7.77 seconds to 60 mph for the 14 CRD per tflcar.com, FWIW
So in other words, even with the 8 speed transmission it's significantly slower than the Hemi with the old transmission.
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So in other words, even with the 8 speed transmission it's significantly slower than the Hemi with the old transmission.
Even if it was 2 seconds faster than the SRT you would still bash it. What difference does it make?
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

Yes, the diesel will be significantly slower than the Hemi. I don't know where they got the 7.7 seconds from because all these road tests were from a manufacturers event and there was no instrumented testing according to the reviews on the car mag websites.
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So in other words, even with the 8 speed transmission it's significantly slower than the Hemi with the old transmission.


This may or may not be the case, but one thing is for sure the Hemi and the Pentastar with the new 8 speed will be much quicker than the old 5 and 6 speed models. All the reviews out are talking about how much smoother and powerful they feel with the 8 speed.
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Re: 2014 performance - 0-60 ???

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This may or may not be the case, but one thing is for sure the Hemi and the Pentastar with the new 8 speed will be much quicker than the old 5 and 6 speed models. All the reviews out are talking about how much smoother and powerful they feel with the 8 speed.
Somewhere back in the features thread it was mentioned (not sure if it's correct) that while the CRD would have a 3.45 rear, the Hemi was now going with the 3.09.

If that is true, you'll never be comparing the engines. You will be able to compare the drive trains.



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Yes, the diesel will be significantly slower than the Hemi. I don't know where they got the 7.7 seconds from because all these road tests were from a manufacturers event and there was no instrumented testing according to the reviews on the car mag websites.
My guess is it was a watch or phone stopwatch.

Frankly, I think the performance of it is perfectly adequate. I just found it comical that the overseas guys were swearing up and down the CRD was going to roast the Hemi.
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This may or may not be the case, but one thing is for sure the Hemi and the Pentastar with the new 8 speed will be much quicker than the old 5 and 6 speed models. All the reviews out are talking about how much smoother and powerful they feel with the 8 speed.
Maybe. Depends on the extra shift. The lowering earing will definitely make them feel snappier.

Truthfully, the taller 1st gear was one of the things I actually liked. I don't care for vehicles that rush through first gear super quickly, it feels like they didn't add enough power so they compensated by having a really short gear, and IMO it doesn't fit the personality of a comfortable cruiser.

FWIW, they're talking a few tenths of performance increase from the new transmission.
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My guess is it was a watch or phone stopwatch.

Frankly, I think the performance of it is perfectly adequate. I just found it comical that the overseas guys were swearing up and down the CRD was going to roast the Hemi.
I never read those comments anywhere... conscensus seems to be that the CRD will be in between the V6 and V8, but closer in comparison to the V8.
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My guess is it was a watch or phone stopwatch.

Frankly, I think the performance of it is perfectly adequate. I just found it comical that the overseas guys were swearing up and down the CRD was going to roast the Hemi.
Have a look at the times quoted here: http://www.jeep.com.au/features-a-sp...kee-powertrain

I wouldn't say roasted, but on paper, half a second quicker.

The 7.7s being thrown around is from the EVIC of the review vehicle. TFLCar.com are the guys that did the review.
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Have a look at the times quoted here: Jeep Grand Cherokee Powertrain

I wouldn't say roasted, but on paper, half a second quicker.

The 7.7s being thrown around is from the EVIC of the review vehicle. TFLCar.com are the guys that did the review.
We've all seen that Jeep Australia told you guys that Hemi was slower, but that doesn't reflect reality. We don't know why, but they flat out lied to you.
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