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Throughout this entire thread you have repeatedly said the '14 v6 was as fast or as quick when compared to the '11-13 v8 when it isn't. 0-60 the v8 wins, figure 8 the v8 wins (handling), and in the 1/4 mile v8 wins. The HD brakes under perform big time, not sure why. All these are per Motor Trend. You were proved wrong on the interwebs. It happens. The v6 and 8 speed, like I have said, is a great motor/transmission combo and it bridges the gap really well. Hopefully you get a chance to enjoy what the jeeps are truly made for by going offroad. I think we can all agree that off road is more enjoyable (except maybe the SRT folks)
Through motortrend. By car and driver they are tied to 60 and in the 1/4 and the V6 is quicker passing. I'd call that a tie. You also need to reread the motortrend article. The V6 is quicker through the figure 8 and stops shorter. The V6 did the figure 8 in 25.5 vs. 25.7 for the Hemi. The braking was also 14' shorter. I'm not talking about the base V6 Laredo. This was on a limited. Lets keep the field a little even. If you want to look at every instrumented test, some of the 2011 Hemis recorded a 15.8 in the 1/4. They are pretty much a dead heat. Only driver error is losing the race. Now stop your crying. If your not happy, go buy a '14 Hemi or an Explorer sport.

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Just found an article by trucktrend on the 2011 Hemi. It need 28.2 to do the figure 8 and an additional 20' to stop vs. the '14 V6. Ouch!!
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Re: 2014 V6 versus 2013 V8

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Through motortrend. By car and driver they are tied to 60 and in the 1/4 and the V6 is quicker passing. I'd call that a tie. You also need to reread the motortrend article. The V6 is quicker through the figure 8 and stops shorter. The V6 did the figure 8 in 25.5 vs. 25.7 for the Hemi. The braking was also 14' shorter. I'm not talking about the base V6 Laredo. This was on a limited. Lets keep the field a little even. If you want to look at every instrumented test, some of the 2011 Hemis recorded a 15.8 in the 1/4. They are pretty much a dead heat. Only driver error is losing the race. Now stop your crying. If your not happy, go buy a '14 Hemi or an Explorer sport.

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Just found an article by trucktrend on the 2011 Hemi. It need 28.2 to do the figure 8 and an additional 20' to stop vs. the '14 V6. Ouch!!
'11 28.2 seconds is less than '14 28.5 seconds. Keep cherry picking man.
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Re: 2014 V6 versus 2013 V8

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They all feel unimpressive to me. As for daily driving the only two scenarios that matter are climbing a hill without a downshift and passing power from 70-90 as that is the range where I make most of my passes. I have no complaints with the performance of my 11' Hemi and actually prefer not to constantly hear the tranny shift.

When I bought my 11' I owned a 4.7HO and the wife and I did a pull from a dead stop and my 4.7 owned my 5.7. It raped out of the hole and continued to pull. Additionally in snow the older jeeps with QD but no traction control are vastly superior.
I'm guessing that you've never driven a 2014 Grand Cherokee. The reason I say that is because the shifting is almost imperceptible. I don't really like automatics much at all (I've been driving stick for 25 years now), but that's mostly because automatics with lots of gear ratios are always shifting, or so it seems. I have to say that the new 8-speed automatic isn't a problem at all. The thing is so smooth that you don't even feel the shifts...and it's not easy to hear them either, unless you have the radio off and you're really listening for them.
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They all feel unimpressive to me. As for daily driving the only two scenarios that matter are climbing a hill without a downshift and passing power from 70-90 as that is the range where I make most of my passes. I have no complaints with the performance of my 11' Hemi and actually prefer not to constantly hear the tranny shift.

When I bought my 11' I owned a 4.7HO and the wife and I did a pull from a dead stop and my 4.7 owned my 5.7. It raped out of the hole and continued to pull. Additionally in snow the older jeeps with QD but no traction control are vastly superior.
I had a 2000 JGC limited with the 4.7 and QD and it was shit in the snow the back end had to start swinging around before the front wheels would kick in and save the day. I replace that jeep with a Subaru Outback with a V6 that this was great in the snow I could throw that into a corner at full throttle with no bullshit back end swinging that's a good VDC my next vehicle was 2008 MDX also shit in the snow because of the VDC if the wheels started to spin it would stop you in the middle of the road until you turned off the VDC. Before I bought this jeep I made darn sure that Jeep made some improvements to their system. So I have high hopes.

As far as can my modern V6 out run a the most outdated V8 sold in this country who care's...

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I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the 2014 V6 actually puts down better acceleration numbers than the 2013 V8, due to the 8-speed automatic in the 2014. Is this true?

I found a Car & Driver road test of a heavy (meaning fully loaded) 2014 V6 Overland, and they posted 7.5 seconds from 0-60mph and a 15.7 second quarter mile time. That's not bad at all for a V6 SUV that weighs 5000 lbs.
Ya, the v6 beats the v8 all day and nite.
And when you factor in cubic inches it beats the srt too.
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'11 28.2 seconds is less than '14 28.5 seconds. Keep cherry picking man.
I not the one cherry picking. I feel quite adequate with what I have. And what I have is just as quick as the old Hemi, handles and brakes better than all Hemis, gets better gas mileage and does it all on regular gas. Plus I have the 8.4" touchscreen. Haha. The facts are what they are. The old transmissions sucked on all engines and the new one greatly improves all engines. Magazines are testing the new V6 with times that match all but one test of the old Hemi. The V6 consistently has better passing times as well. I'm not the one writing this, the journalist are. They are also the ones that criticized the old Hemi for being too slow for its HP and are now praising the new 8spd on all models. If you still feel the need to search every article to find where a Hemi got a few tenths quicker one day because of a tailwind, please also click the add for the male enhancement. It sounds like either you or you jeep need it.
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I not the one cherry picking. I feel quite adequate with what I have. And what I have is just as quick as the old Hemi, handles and brakes better than all Hemis, gets better gas mileage and does it all on regular gas. Plus I have the 8.4" touchscreen. Haha. The facts are what they are. The old transmissions sucked on all engines and the new one greatly improves all engines. Magazines are testing the new V6 with times that match all but one test of the old Hemi. The V6 consistently has better passing times as well. I'm not the one writing this, the journalist are. They are also the ones that criticized the old Hemi for being too slow for its HP and are now praising the new 8spd on all models. If you still feel the need to search every article to find where a Hemi got a few tenths quicker one day because of a tailwind, please also click the add for the male enhancement. It sounds like either you or you jeep need it.
I am glad you like your jeep. The 2014's are great. You should be proud of it. The Motortrend article was with a tailwind now? How would you possibly know that? You know ads nowadays are based on demographics and internet usage history, right? In the words of Ron White 'you can't fix stupid'. I am sorry I tried. Good day
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Hahahahahahaha. You kill me. I'm totally happy with my just as quick as your Hemi V6. Maybe there is a support group for you.
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What do you think of this one? Its a test of the Hemi. If all tests matter, shoyldnt this one? 0-60 8.2. Did the 1/4 in 16.1. Cars test differently on different days with different weather etc.
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Re: 2014 V6 versus 2013 V8

Well my 2014 5.7L Hemi is faster than both, and Scott's 2014 6.4L is faster than mine, so..there!

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What do you think of this one? Its a test of the Hemi. If all tests matter, shoyldnt this one? 0-60 8.2. Did the 1/4 in 16.1. Cars test differently on different days with different weather etc.
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naw...you don't say! But ALL v6 and V8 GC's have the SAME horsepower! How can one 5.7 be faster than another 5.7? They have the same hp! How can a 470 hp SRt be faster than a 518 hp Merc? Hmmm...talk about talking out of both sides of your ass! You just like to argue and stir shiat!
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