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+1 on new Shifter.

Wondering if S16 is only for Gas engines. I only have S28 pending, and I am not in a hurry to get it fixed. They have manufactured 30K plus vehicles since mid of 2015 with mis-aligned crimping tool that caused the wire crimp problem, and they only have 2-3 incidents from this. I want to get it fixed, but thinking about getting it in another 4k miles, when my GC will go for oil change.
My guess would be that S16 may be specific to the 3.6L as the diesel and 5.7L have the HD brakes, which means different calipers.

I'm not going to wait to get S28 done as they say that a loss of BTSI function could cause the trans to go into P or N, causing a crash. Going into N while moving wouldn't be nearly as bad as having it go into P.

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Re: 2015-2016 High Altitude Owners Thread

Im sure most of you know this already,but there is a PCM update for the 3.6L V6 for 2015. I had my dealer install it and the biggest difference I noticed was in Eco mode. I used to hate using this as taking off from red lights I would find the engine struggled to get going and I got so annoyed by the lack of responsiveness that I never used it. I started using is again today and I noticed it was alot more smooth and I actually enjoyed having it in Eco mode for longer trips to work. In sport mode I find it took away the loud sound of the engine when you step on it to go. In sport mode I used to take off and the engine would really rev, but that is more subdued after the update. I havn't noticed much change in normal mode. Just my two cents,not sure if anyone else has got this update done and noticed any difference.

I can also confirm (as reported by JulesB earlier) the heated seats module update worked for me as well and I now have heated seats that actually function properly to the point I had to lower it down from high to low for the first time. Didnt do a long test as it was hot outside, but I could barely feel the heat with my hand before, now the seats get hot enough I can feel it properly.
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Yeah, I like the minor changes they made that you mention.

The biggest bitch I had with my 14 was the way the steering felt. When I picked up my 16 the default steering mode was set to normal. I switched it to sport mode before leaving the dealer's lot and I have to say what a difference that made. So much so that I never actually tried the normal or comfort modes. And I still haven't tried them... LOL.
Was your 2014 a V8? If so yeah the steering on the 2014/2015 V8 is like driving a barge (IMO). One of the first things I noticed when went from my 2014 Summit V8 to the 2015 V6 was the steering feel. I like my 2015 much more and gave me the impression the vehicle was sportier and much lighter. So I think going from the V8 Hydraulic steering in the 2014 V8 to the electric V6 was a huge change in its own, even before they added the driver settings for 2016.

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I wonder if his update applies to all 2015 V6 models or just a certain build date. I have a late '15 build and have not noticed any sluggishness. Infact I would probably not want them to apply any PCM changes as it drives great.
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Was your 2014 a V8? If so yeah the steering on the 2014/2015 V8 is like driving a barge (IMO). One of the first things I noticed when went from my 2014 Summit V8 to the 2015 V6 was the steering feel. I like my 2015 much more and gave me the impression the vehicle was sportier and much lighter. So I think going from the V8 Hydraulic steering in the 2014 V8 to the electric V6 was a huge change in its own, even before they added the driver settings for 2016.

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I wonder if his update applies to all 2015 V6 models or just a certain build date. I have a late '15 build and have not noticed any sluggishness. Infact I would probably not want them to apply any PCM changes as it drives great.
Mine is a December 2015 build date, and the update still applied. If you don't notice any issues then no point in getting the update done. Since the update ive noticed a better overall drive from the engine, particularly in eco, so I havn't had any problems with the update or it causing any problems. Could be that my engine is more broken in now as I havnt used eco in a long time, but if it "aint broke don't fix it" if you have no issues. The only reason I got it done is my HA wouldn't start once so they just applied the update while doing their scan.
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Was your 2014 a V8? If so yeah the steering on the 2014/2015 V8 is like driving a barge (IMO). One of the first things I noticed when went from my 2014 Summit V8 to the 2015 V6 was the steering feel. I like my 2015 much more and gave me the impression the vehicle was sportier and much lighter. So I think going from the V8 Hydraulic steering in the 2014 V8 to the electric V6 was a huge change in its own, even before they added the driver settings for 2016.
No, my 14 had the 3.6L engine. Yes, it steered like a barge. Nothing like that at all on my 16... night and day difference.
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Mine is a December 2015 build date, and the update still applied. If you don't notice any issues then no point in getting the update done. Since the update ive noticed a better overall drive from the engine, particularly in eco, so I havn't had any problems with the update or it causing any problems. Could be that my engine is more broken in now as I havnt used eco in a long time, but if it "aint broke don't fix it" if you have no issues. The only reason I got it done is my HA wouldn't start once so they just applied the update while doing their scan.
Do you have the PCM update reference number? Mine is a '15 with build date 10/2015 with the v6. I'd like to take a look at it and then decide if I want them to do it on my next service, along with the body control system for the heated seats.
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Im sure most of you know this already,but there is a PCM update for the 3.6L V6 for 2015. I had my dealer install it and the biggest difference I noticed was in Eco mode. I used to hate using this as taking off from red lights I would find the engine struggled to get going and I got so annoyed by the lack of responsiveness that I never used it. I started using is again today and I noticed it was alot more smooth and I actually enjoyed having it in Eco mode for longer trips to work. In sport mode I find it took away the loud sound of the engine when you step on it to go. In sport mode I used to take off and the engine would really rev, but that is more subdued after the update. I havn't noticed much change in normal mode. Just my two cents,not sure if anyone else has got this update done and noticed any difference.
I have similar complaints about ECO mode and sport mode as you stated you had before the PCM update. I can't find it on wk2jeeps.com. You wouldn't happen to have the TSB number for this would you?
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2015-2016 High Altitude Owners Thread

For me the PCM update woke up the v8.

My wife drives in ECO mode daily, is is her car. When I drive it... It's always in Sport Mode.

I have quicker acceleration and to be fair the shifts are smooth. No complaints at all.


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No, my 14 had the 3.6L engine. Yes, it steered like a barge. Nothing like that at all on my 16... night and day difference.
Humm interesting. I guess I never drove a 2014 V6, but I assumed it would be similar to the steering setup in my 2015 HA V6 if not identical. Huge difference between V8 hydraulic and V6 electro-hydraulic in my '15 HA. Didn't notice the difference between my '15 HA and '16 HA, maybe I need more time behind the wheel. Makes me wonder if there are any steering changes between a 2014 V6 and a 2015 HA V6.
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Re: 2015-2016 High Altitude Owners Thread

Not an owner yet of a high altitude. But can you start the vehicle from the phone app, and also control heat and AC from it as well?

Would be nice at 4am when it's 5 degrees out in the winter here to turn the heat on from the phone nstead of going outside.
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Not an owner yet of a high altitude. But can you start the vehicle from the phone app, and also confirm heat and AC from it as well?

Would be nice at 4am when it's 5 degrees out in the winter here to turn the heat on from the phone nstead of going outside.
You're gonna love the High Altitude. While remote starting doesn't actually give you control of heat and a/c, you can enable Comfort settings to automatically do this for you. This is from the owners manual:
Auto Comfort Systems — If Equipped
After pressing the “Auto-On Comfort & Remote Start”
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• Auto-On Driver Heated/Ventilated Seat & Steering
Wheel With Vehicle Start — If Equipped
When this feature is selected the driver’s heated seat and
heated steering wheel will automatically turn ON when
temperatures are below 40 F (4.4 C). When temperatures
are above 80 F (26.7 C) the driver vented seat will
turn ON. To make your selection, press the “Auto Heated
Seats” button on the touchscreen, then select either “Off,”
“Remote Start” or “All Starts.”
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Not an owner yet of a high altitude. But can you start the vehicle from the phone app, and also confirm heat and AC from it as well?

Would be nice at 4am when it's 5 degrees out in the winter here to turn the heat on from the phone nstead of going outside.
Well you have to have left the climate control on auto from the previous drive. So for example say you get home at 5pm from work and the climate is set to auto, if you remote start the vehicle the next morning the vehicle will still be in auto and will heat or cool the interior. If you previously left the climate off the previous drive then the climate control won't be on the next time to heat or cool the interior. So long story short just be sure to leave the climate control on auto. It would likely be left on anyway in the middle of winter so usually not an issue. . Another feature the Jeep has on applicable models is comfort feature. If selected in Uconnect settings, it will either put the ventilated seat on if it's hot out, or if it's cold it will automatically activate the heated seat and steering wheel. Great features for those really hot or cold days.

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Oh the one annoying thing about the auto comfort setting that sort of bothers me is for some reason it only selects the low ventilated seat option. So whenever I get in the vehicle I have to go in and press the ventilated seat button twice to get it on high. I have auto comfort feature selected for remote starts only for that exact reason, because I want the damn thing on high setting not low. Why they made it like that I have no idea. Anyone have any ideas? Heated seat goes to high setting.
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