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Looking for opinions. Is my math wrong? Want to pull the trigger on a 15 GC Limited 4x4. Considering either the hemi or diesel. When I build the Jeep on the site with the luxury package and off road adventure II package the hemi is comparable because the luxury package is discounted $1000 on the diesel. I'm prepared to wait for deliveries on the diesel within reason. Looks like fuel savings using a .75 difference per gallon start within the first year. I used 17mpg on the hemi (optimistic) and 24mpg diesel. Am I missing something? I appreciate your input. Long time Jeep owner, will be my first diesel and am somewhat hesitant.

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Re: 2015 GC Limited

Diesel is far better for torque than petrol all day every day.
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The number one reason for you to consider an EcoDiesel is because you want an EcoDiesel for what it does well. Cost savings is a tenuous thing, especially currently, making payback, if you're trying for that, a very long term thing. Assuming you're in North America.
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Payback really isn't an issue with me. I'll be doing some towing and extended trips. More concerned with long term reliability as I've not owned a diesel previously. Good thoughts, thanks.
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More concerned with long term reliability
From what I have read from this forum, your best bet for long term reliability is the V8 gas motor. The diesel and the V8 have the same transmission which sees fewer complaints than the one on the V6.

I have been reading here because I am waiting to buy a GC and will get ( unless I change my mind ) a V6 4x4. Driving a 2012 Wrangler now, and love it enough that I am dragging my feet on the new car and watching prices.

Early on I was thinking of the diesel, but after reading all the posts, have decided against it. The initial cost hit seems crazy high on top of issues with DEF, DEF lines and fewer number of mechanics that are competent with a diesel. are factors that led me to decide to stay with gas. I drove one just to make sure and it was the first diesel I have ever driven. It scooted along nicely but sure was strange to see all the action to be torque at lower rpms without any "rev" in the motor. I am sure I would get used to it, but the difference between gas and diesel was very noticeable if you keep an eye on the tachometer.

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With the packages you are including in that build, you may want to take a look at the Overland as well. It may work out cheaper. As far as the engine goes, that's personal preference. I would choose the Hemi myself. I have the V6 Limited and not getting the Hemi is my only regret.
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The 3.0 Diesel engine itself is a proven power plant...it's only new to the JGC. (and RAM) Where any reliability concerns come into play, they may be more pointed at the emissions system that is a fact of life for pretty much any diesel engine these days, including on late-model big-rig trucks.
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Re: 2015 GC Limited

We have two WK2's, one with the 3.0L diesel and one with the Hemi. Both have been great Jeeps so far. The 3.0L is a reliable engine and is overbuilt. Good chance it would have (at least) twice the longevity of the gasser when properly maintained.
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LOL... yes, but at what overall cost?
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LOL... yes, but at what overall cost?
Sure it's more up front. But economy depends on your use and expected length of ownership. My wife has a long commute and we often travel to CO so the diesel works great for us. I have no commute and trailer my Wrangler so the Hemi fits the bill.
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Re: 2015 GC Limited

Driving a 2015 diesel Summit 4X4. Fantastic mileage. @55mph gets 31+ mpg. @70 mph its 28.7 mpg. Not bad for a 2 1/2 ton brick. Does mid 20's around town. The diesels tend to outdo EPA numbers while the V8 s don't quite match them. If you were comparing the gas V6 versus the diesel, the economics of the gas would seem better. When I did the diesel versus V8 numbers the diesel was the better deal, especially when resale is factored in. See if you can do a road test of both to see how they do the way you drive.
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Re: 2015 GC Limited

If you are thinking of buying an extended warranty, check the prices of the diesel versus gas. Last time I looked the diesel was a bit more expensive. Only reason I would think that is the case is because anticipated expenses related to repairs are higher. The cost differentials don't seem to indicate to me that the diesel is a sound economic choice, however, that is only one reason to make a decision. The thing that tempted me regarding the diesel is the nice long range between fuel stops.

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