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Old 03-23-2015, 08:39 AM
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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I'm definitely getting the HEMI. For me, I just can't see having a V6 in such a heavy, high profile vehicle. Yeah, I know the 6 performs pretty well in the Grand Cherokee, and it has a lot of satisfied owners to back that statement up. With that said, the HEMI has the same better performance upgrades the Penstar has, like VVT and 4 valve heads.

So they've pretty much paralleled each other in technology advancement. No matter how you cut the cake, the HEMI will outperform the Penstar in most every way. Based on that, the HEMI it is. I don't relish spending the extra cash. The last time I bought a vehicle, a V-8 upgrade was just a couple of hundred bucks more. But as they say, buy once, cry once.
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:44 AM
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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I would only be crying if I'd bought the V6 and later realized (as most probably do) that sh*t, I shoulda' got the Hemi! When I enter the merge lane, put the hammer down & the Hemi roars past those other cars, I can't stop smiling! Mileage be damned . . . that is the fun factor x 10!! And I can only imagine how great the SRT must be to drive! As I've said before, there is no replacement for displacement! If you want better gas mileage, you should be driving a Prius!
I couldn't agree with you more. I'm retired, 62 years old, and I'm long past "economical thinking". That was for back when I was working to SAVE money. Not retiring to enjoy SPENDING it. We have no kids to leave it to, so why the hell not? Besides, in another year or so we are going to be moving out of the city, and back to the Colorado River area of western Arizona. (Either Lake Havasu City, or Ft. Mohave area). This might involve getting a boat at some point down the road. No matter if it's a small Aluminum fishing boat, or a larger , heavier runabout, there is zero question the HEMI equipped 2WD Grand Cherokee will be far better suited for pulling it than the Penstar V-6. Especially in the Summer heat.

And under normal day to day driving conditions, I just don't see the V6 being that much more, if at all, more economical. So I'm not seeing any reason at this point to limit myself to a 6. And as you say, the last thing I want to think about is driving around saying to myself...... "Wow, I could have had a V-8!"
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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What do you mean by high profile vehicle?
Big, heavy SUV's as compared to aerodynamically designed road cars.
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:46 AM
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I'm definitely getting the HEMI. For me, I just can't see having a V6 in such a heavy, high profile vehicle. Yeah, I know the 6 performs pretty well in the Grand Cherokee, and it has a lot of satisfied owners to back that statement up. With that said, the HEMI has the same better performance upgrades the Penstar has, like VVT and 4 valve heads.

So they've pretty much paralleled each other in technology advancement. No matter how you cut the cake, the HEMI will outperform the Penstar in most every way. Based on that, the HEMI it is. I don't relish spending the extra cash. The last time I bought a vehicle, a V-8 upgrade was just a couple of hundred bucks more. But as they say, buy once, cry once.
I love the Hemi also but there is no 4 valves per cylinder in it. Just two
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

Keep in mind when a lot of people "Test Drove" a V6 that may have tested an early MY14. Which had SERIOUS Performance issues with the transmission firmware. Basically any V6 tested in 2013 I would "void" IMHO (some may be perfectly valid). The first firmware that fixed it was not released until December 2013. And I'm sure plenty of GC's around didn't get updated for a good while. I would void opinions of the V6 in a lot of Reviews as well which were not redone for the 2015 because it's supposed to be the "same". The V6 was a DOG until the firmware was fixed.


A properly working V6 is silky smooth, plenty of power, and has a real nice pure when you open it up, especially with dual exhaust. No hesitation, no lag, no passing issues. This is all with ECO-On.


As suggested OP should test drive both. But may well be a V8 type personality.


By the way there is a lot of serious complaints about the MDS system on V8's.
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...When I enter the merge lane, put the hammer down & the Hemi roars past those other cars, I can't stop smiling! ...
And here all these years I've been laboring under the misimpression that I was supposed to match my speed to the other vehicles when merging. I'll have to try it your way.
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Old 03-23-2015, 12:18 PM
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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This again...sighs. How many times over the years have we had the should I get the v6 or v8 discussion? And lets not forget the 4x4 or 4x2 discussions. Everyone is going to vote for whatever they happen to drive as best and why would anyone drive anything else.

My opinion...stops to put on flame suit.... is if you want a 4x2, v6, with stellar fuel economy you're at the wrong dealer. Kia makes a nice little SUV as do others. Too many mall rated Jeeps down here. Anyone want to go wheeling with me tomorrow, my Jeep needs to go get dirty?
I'll take you up on that invitation. Hell, if i get stuck i'll use these

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and if that don't work we can use my shiny chrome tow hooks in the front!

Been wanting to get the jeep real dirty!!!

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Forgot to mention: as for the hemi in the GC and being detuned compared to the RAM, isnt the RAM a much heavier truck? So what if it has 35 ponies more and a few more tq.

Lets just say i have experiance "off the line" against one... Poor bastard
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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I'll take you up on that invitation. Hell, if i get stuck i'll use these

Trac-Grabber - The "Get Unstuck" Traction Solution for Trucks/SUV - Walmart.com

and if that don't work we can use my shiny chrome tow hooks in the front!

Been wanting to get the jeep real dirty!!!

**EDIT

Forgot to mention: as for the hemi in the GC and being detuned compared to the RAM, isnt the RAM a much heavier truck? So what if it has 35 ponies more and a few more tq.

Lets just say i have experiance "off the line" against one... Poor bastard
RAM HEMI should whip your butt 0-60 5.4 Seconds as opposed to the GC HEMI is 6.5 Seconds (According to Car and Driver). I guess you've had lots of practice at all the traffic lights. Were you racing him when he had 1 Ton load?
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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I'll take you up on that invitation. Hell, if i get stuck i'll use these

Trac-Grabber - The "Get Unstuck" Traction Solution for Trucks/SUV - Walmart.com

and if that don't work we can use my shiny chrome tow hooks in the front!

Been wanting to get the jeep real dirty!!!

**EDIT

Forgot to mention: as for the hemi in the GC and being detuned compared to the RAM, isnt the RAM a much heavier truck? So what if it has 35 ponies more and a few more tq.

Lets just say i have experiance "off the line" against one... Poor bastard
Similar weight- the RAM truck is 5,100 lbs. Our GCs are pretty heavy in comparison. The extra ponies and torque, even a little bit does make a difference. As MSWLOGO correctly pointed out, C&D did rate the RAM to be actually substantially faster from 0-60.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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RAM HEMI should whip your butt 0-60 5.4 Seconds as opposed to the GC HEMI is 6.5 Seconds (According to Car and Driver). I guess you've had lots of practice at all the traffic lights. Were you racing him when he had 1 Ton load?
WOW!

I'd love a tune for our HEMIs that improved performance to match those kind of numbers.
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RAM HEMI should whip your butt 0-60 5.4 Seconds as opposed to the GC HEMI is 6.5 Seconds (According to Car and Driver). I guess you've had lots of practice at all the traffic lights. Were you racing him when he had 1 Ton load?
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Similar weight- the RAM truck is 5,100 lbs. Our GCs are pretty heavy in comparison. The extra ponies and torque, even a little bit does make a difference. As MSWLOGO correctly pointed out, C&D did rate the RAM to be actually substantially faster from 0-60.

Correct me if i'm wrong but, there is always a but...

JGC hemi 4x2's are lighter than 4x4's are they not? So with that said looking at a 4x2 summit which i assume is heavier if not the same as an overland and its curb weight is 4,968lbs. THIS IS FOR A 4X2. An 4x4 overland's curb weight is 5,250lbs.

A RAM Longhorn's curb weight is 5,196lbs. Going off a 4x2 summit that is a 228lbs difference. Hence a few more ponies and what, a 15lbs/tq difference. Well, i can see it may go either way.

Sport mode in the hemi sure picks up, so either that goof let up on the gas or, hey i don't know what to tell ya maybe i imagined it.

Did i mention this was not a new RAM? Must a been either a 11-13 i'd say.

And for the record, i don't condone street racing. This was not done on public streets!!!
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Correct me if i'm wrong but, there is always a but...

JGC hemi 4x2's are lighter than 4x4's are they not? So with that said looking at a 4x2 summit which i assume is heavier if not the same as an overland and its curb weight is 4,968lbs. THIS IS FOR A 4X2. An 4x4 overland's curb weight is 5,250lbs.

A RAM Longhorn's curb weight is 5,196lbs. Going off a 4x2 summit that is a 228lbs difference. Hence a few more ponies and what, a 15lbs/tq difference. Well, i can see it may go either way.

Sport mode in the hemi sure picks up, so either that goof let up on the gas or, hey i don't know what to tell ya maybe i imagined it.

Did i mention this was not a new RAM? Must a been either a 11-13 i'd say.

And for the record, i don't condone street racing. This was not done on public streets!!!
What was your point of bringing it up then. You stated it was a weight difference. And forgot to mention it was a 2011-13 with the inferior transmission. A 2014-2015 V6 will give 2011-2013 5.7 HEMI a run for it's money.


And now your talking 4x2 to mung things up further.


Did you know V6's are lighter too. And they can probably stop quicker too.
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