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One thing to keep in mind is that when you buy from ziegler or i imagine zeller also you dont pay tax when from youf local dealer it is taxed just somethinv to factor in when deciding.

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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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I see this as a possible problem years down the road. Especially if the vehicle has low miles in relationship to it's age, and is in good overall condition otherwise, except for the problem at hand. How is value determined? Kelly Blue Book? High? Low? Somewhere in the middle?
There is always risk in something like this, but if you are someone who keeps a vehicle for a long time and are buying something with a lot of bells and whistles that could offer expensive repairs, then the $2200-2400 for the Lifetime contract amortized over that period of time that does end up qualifying for coverage is a pretty good deal. And if coverage drops 10-12 years down the road? You still have the option to pay for the repair.
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It is a good deal if he value of the repair exceeds thd value of the vehicle you get a check for the value of the vehicle and you get to keep the vehicle. Unless the vehicle is really old and valueless chances are that check could be more than thr 2k you paid for the service contract in the first place. Yeah theres inerest to be considerd but still not a bad deal if you keep the vehicle for ghe long haul
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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And if coverage drops 10-12 years down the road? You still have the option to pay for the repair.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. But if you pay for lifetime coverage, and you require a repair that exceeds the value of the vehicle at that time, don't they have to at least give you the blue book value of the car at the time the repair is required? Or can they just say no and walk away?

For example. Lets say after 14 years you needed a new transmission that would cost $4,200.00 with labor. But the Kelly Blue Book value of the vehicle at the time was only $3,900.00 as judged by them. Wouldn't they have to give you the $3,900.00 before they cancelled anything?
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

I believe that is right.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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Please correct me if I'm wrong. But if you pay for lifetime coverage, and you require a repair that exceeds the value of the vehicle at that time, don't they have to at least give you the blue book value of the car at the time the repair is required? Or can they just say no and walk away?

For example. Lets say after 14 years you needed a new transmission that would cost $4,200.00 with labor. But the Kelly Blue Book value of the vehicle at the time was only $3,900.00 as judged by them. Wouldn't they have to give you the $3,900.00 before they cancelled anything?
in that case you would get a check for $3900 and service contract would be canceled going forward.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

I sure hope it would work like that. It is always necessary to get it explained to you by the person selling you the warranty. As how it is going to work for you.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

Keep in mind that it's the value of a single repair exceeding value. So Stay on top of things and keep things "incrementally" fixed. I doubt they track total cost of all repairs. It's just if a single repair exceeds value. I suspect it doesn't matter what the condition is. They will get value out of a book.


It won't be a lifetime if you keep it forever, but it should be significantly longer the 7/100 maybe 10/200 (I hope). By the time a major repair exceeds value.


I sold my $32k 2002 GC Limited for $2500.00 after 12 years and 217K and I don't think a single repair ever exceed $1500.00. But I never had anything major like a transmission.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

For me time will always exceed mileage. My 1991 F-150 currently has 148,000 miles on it. I bought it new in August of 1991. My 1991 Mustang currently has 168,000 miles. I bought it in 1992 with 22,000 miles on it.

All of this mileage was put on when both my wife and I were working. Now we're both retired, so we'll be driving the new Grand Cherokee even less. So it is very possible for me to end up putting only about 6,000 miles a year on both vehicles, (Grand Cherokee & truck), combined, (3,000 a year each). If that's the case I could be in possession of a 10 year old Grand Cherokee with under 30,000 miles. So for me it's imperative to have a long term warranty time wise.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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Please correct me if I'm wrong. But if you pay for lifetime coverage, and you require a repair that exceeds the value of the vehicle at that time, don't they have to at least give you the blue book value of the car at the time the repair is required? Or can they just say no and walk away?

For example. Lets say after 14 years you needed a new transmission that would cost $4,200.00 with labor. But the Kelly Blue Book value of the vehicle at the time was only $3,900.00 as judged by them. Wouldn't they have to give you the $3,900.00 before they cancelled anything?
Yes, that is correct. It is plainly explained in the lifetime warranty paperwork. However, you may have an argument for higher vehicle value based on condition. If you keep the vehicle in a garage and take good care of it, be sure to document the condition every now and then with photos.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

I'm a new member of the forum however I have been reading the posts for some time now. This particular thread is of great interest to me because I was debating between gas V6, V8, and diesel motors.

A little background on me, I tend to drive my cars until they aren't worth fixing anymore. I am faithful about performing routine and preventative maintenance so my cars last. My current driver is a 2001 Volvo S60 with 306,000+ miles. My wife drives a 2007 Town and country with 127,000 miles. Like I said, I keep my cars a long time!

I was drawn to the diesel because I wanted the increased fuel economy and the get up and go from my test drive was really great. After reading the posts about the problems with the emissions systems (e.g. DEF, catalytic converter, etc), I chose to pass on the diesel. I know that the posts on boards like this are skewed toward the reporting of problems, but I prize reliability and dependability. I hope the problems are resolved soon as I still think the motor may entice me in the future.

I drove the V6 and while it didn't have the launch off the line that the diesel had, it was still a comfortable vehicle. Very nice!

I modeled my fuel costs to estimate the relative pro's and con's of the diesel and the V6. The advantage of the diesel in fuel economy was offset by the price difference between diesel and gas in Texas. Essentially it was a wash for me. At present fuel costs the difference is less than $100/yr.

Then someone suggested that I look at the V8. On paper the V8 is close enough to the fuel economy of the V6, that to me, the costs were close enough for me to live with. My worry was that the EPA estimates would be way off and the V8 mileage would be abysmal! financially I can handle it, but I know I would kick myself everytime I filled up if I was only getting 10 or 12 mpg's! And I looked at Fuelly.com to research mileage and a number of V8 owners are reporting mileage in the 10 to 12 mpg range with no notes about towing or other exceptional conditions.

So what to do? I took the advice of several of y'all (yes I am in Texas) and went on some test drives. The diesel was nice but at this time I'm not willing to take the chance. My 20 mile or so test drive of the V6 was pleasant and returned 21.1 mpg with a mix of highway and city driving. I then took the V8 out on the same route, and with ECO turned on I was able to get 18.3 mpg. And, I put my foot into it a few times to find out what all the fuss about the hemi was. Well, I still have a smile on my face!

The V6 was a very enjoyable and comfortable ride. The V8 was flat out fun! I would be happy with either motor but decided to have a little more fun along with the comfort and choose the V8. And my observed mileage difference was only 2.8 mpg's well within my comfort zone. Yes it was using the EVIC and yes it was only a 20 mile test route. The data squared with the EPA mpg differential and was consistent with a number of posts on Fuelly.com.

Bottom-line, this past Friday I ordered my 2015 Limited 4x4 with a V8 and the options I want. I now get to wait 6 weeks for delivery but it will have just what I want. I could have gone with the Overland but I felt that with more bells and whistles, there are more opportunities for problems. The probability is low but I want to maximize the probability that I will be able to drive my new Jeep for 200,000+ miles! And yes, I will purchase a Maxcare warranty.

I want to thank all of you for contributing to the discussion on this topic and others. This was an invaluable source of information for me and contributed to my purchasing decision.

Thanks y'all!
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

My thinking on the power plant for my new Jeep parallels yours. Limited 4X2 with the HEMI. Good luck with your new Jeep!
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