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So their driven and not transported via truck? They do this with new vehicles?
Usually yes. Dealer will be trading one of his vehicles for the other vehicle. You will sign something at delivery verifying that you understand the mileage at delivery, at least in NYS.


And that "retiree" will often drive them like they stole them, at least in NYS!

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I don't want some yo-yo driving MY new Jeep!
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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If you are really looking for performance, go for the HEMI.

I can assure you though that the difference in consumption will be greater than '1-2 MPG' as somebody suggested earlier.

For me, going with the V6 was a no-brainer. I have nothing to tow and if performance would have been my most important feature, I wouldn't have gone for an SUV in the first place.

The (low) fuel-consumption on the V6 is just awesome and if I want to have some fun, I put it in 'S' and get the same performance as on a <MY14 HEMI.
You really need to drive both on roads representative of where you will be driving.
Get similarly equipped models and when testing don't worry about 4x4 vs 4x2 as long as both are the same.

The difference in consumption between the hemi and v6 is largely determined by where you drive and how heavy and steady a right foot you have. The hemi recommends mid-grade vs regular or bushgas for the v6 if that is a consideration.

The V6 is fairly spritely, particularly for such a heavy vehicle--aided largely by the 8 speed. The hemi is notably more spritely if you live at higher altitude or drive where the altitude changes a lot--no way can either the turbodiesel or v6 stay close to a hemi, and the 8 speed in the hemi really helps with mileage unless you have a nervous foot--plus it is a different model 8 speed straight from ZF.

The hemi is not a Daddy Don Garlits grade engine--more like an older reasonably fast 327/350 or modest 396. It does have torque--not as much as the diesel, but has a pretty wide power band.

The V6 is kinda like your mother-in-law on too much coffee. A rather imposing force, but at the cost of possibly a bit too much noise and drama. The hemi is the big gentle retired football center next door--an even more imposing force and incredibly relaxed while putting miles and lesser traffice behind it at very impressive rates.
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You really need to drive both on roads representative of where you will be driving.
Get similarly equipped models and when testing don't worry about 4x4 vs 4x2 as long as both are the same.

The difference in consumption between the hemi and v6 is largely determined by where you drive and how heavy and steady a right foot you have. The hemi recommends mid-grade vs regular or bushgas for the v6 if that is a consideration.

The V6 is fairly spritely, particularly for such a heavy vehicle--aided largely by the 8 speed. The hemi is notably more spritely if you live at higher altitude or drive where the altitude changes a lot--no way can either the turbodiesel or v6 stay close to a hemi, and the 8 speed in the hemi really helps with mileage unless you have a nervous foot--plus it is a different model 8 speed straight from ZF.

The hemi is not a Daddy Don Garlits grade engine--more like an older reasonably fast 327/350 or modest 396. It does have torque--not as much as the diesel, but has a pretty wide power band.

The V6 is kinda like your mother-in-law on too much coffee. A rather imposing force, but at the cost of possibly a bit too much noise and drama. The hemi is the big gentle retired football center next door--an even more imposing force and incredibly relaxed while putting miles and lesser traffice behind it at very impressive rates.
Great analogy.
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You really need to drive both on roads representative of where you will be driving.
Get similarly equipped models and when testing don't worry about 4x4 vs 4x2 as long as both are the same.

The difference in consumption between the hemi and v6 is largely determined by where you drive and how heavy and steady a right foot you have. The hemi recommends mid-grade vs regular or bushgas for the v6 if that is a consideration.

The V6 is fairly spritely, particularly for such a heavy vehicle--aided largely by the 8 speed. The hemi is notably more spritely if you live at higher altitude or drive where the altitude changes a lot--no way can either the turbodiesel or v6 stay close to a hemi, and the 8 speed in the hemi really helps with mileage unless you have a nervous foot--plus it is a different model 8 speed straight from ZF.

The hemi is not a Daddy Don Garlits grade engine--more like an older reasonably fast 327/350 or modest 396. It does have torque--not as much as the diesel, but has a pretty wide power band.

The V6 is kinda like your mother-in-law on too much coffee. A rather imposing force, but at the cost of possibly a bit too much noise and drama. The hemi is the big gentle retired football center next door--an even more imposing force and incredibly relaxed while putting miles and lesser traffice behind it at very impressive rates.
Very well put! The more replies I read, the more it looks like I'll be getting a HEMI.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

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If you are really looking for performance, go for the HEMI.

I can assure you though that the difference in consumption will be greater than '1-2 MPG' as somebody suggested earlier.

For me, going with the V6 was a no-brainer. I have nothing to tow and if performance would have been my most important feature, I wouldn't have gone for an SUV in the first place.

The (low) fuel-consumption on the V6 is just awesome and if I want to have some fun, I put it in 'S' and get the same performance as on a <MY14 HEMI.

I agree! Get the V6, it will provide you with around 20 mpg and you can enjoy the S mode peppiness when you want to have some fun.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

How has the 8-Speed transmission performed for you guys? Good reliability and performance? I can't imagine the complexity of so many speeds. How do the paddle shifters work in "S" Mode? If you select "D", does it work like a normal automatic? They seem to be pretty reliable from what I've read. If you just cruise along in "D", how fast of a speed does it require before you get into 8th gear?
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A dealer near me had one new for $34,900.00. But they sold it. It was white with tan leather. They come around from time to time. But they are HARD to find.
I was forgetting you said 4x2.

If it was a Limited V8 4x4 for that price, my guess is they were desperate to get rid of it at that price.

I just tried to configure a 4x2 V8 Limited and the Jeep site won't let me.

A 4x4 V8 Limited is MSRP of $42,500.00
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I just did a search on Cars.com guess Jeep.Com is broken because V8 Limited RWD do exist.


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I was forgetting you said 4x2.

If it was a Limited V8 4x4 for that price, my guess is they were desperate to get rid of it at that price.

I just tried to configure a 4x2 V8 Limited and the Jeep site won't let me.

A 4x4 V8 Limited is MSRP of $42,500.00
It let me. Zip code 80013. I had to pick the color, then expand the powertrain. Pick the 5.7 then the second 8 speed transmission in the pop up. $40,585.
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Re: 2015 Grand Cherokee - V-8 Or V-6 ??

I'm trying to figure out why you need the v8 beyond fun factor.

Personally, I think you are crazy getting 2WD! That vehicle will be a miserable trade/resale down the road IMHO, and will lack the qualities the Jeep was really built to showcase. But hey, to each their own.

Yes, by all means, drive both engines, it is the only way you will really know the differences between the engines.

I traded a 2006 Nissan Frontier with an incredible engine for my V6 Overland. I do not miss the "pull" or "push" of the Nissan. I drive well over 50 miles a day and can tell you the v6 moves when needed to and still averages around 22 in warm weather (about 20 this winter - love that remote start!). Unless you are pretending to drive in F1, I can't see the need for the V8. That being said, vehicle purchases rarely come down to need, that is a given.
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How has the 8-Speed transmission performed for you guys? Good reliability and performance? I can't imagine the complexity of so many speeds. How do the paddle shifters work in "S" Mode? If you select "D", does it work like a normal automatic? They seem to be pretty reliable from what I've read. If you just cruise along in "D", how fast of a speed does it require before you get into 8th gear?
8 speed and the hemi are a match made in heaven - so easy to drive. All your questions about how to drive the 8 speed can be found in the owner's manual found here:

http://www.chryslercommercialvehicle...kee-OM-2nd.pdf
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