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2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

Not sure a thread has covered the "newly designed 2014/15 Range Rover" but I have a couple observations. Plus, I thought it would be fun to get other people's take so I can get snapped back into reality.

1. I don't know much about Range Rovers having never owned one. Probably not even a comparison between the two as far as quality and materials. I believe they are owned by TaTa (an Indian company). I did however go and check one out last week to satisfy my own curiosity. From what I saw, what a beautiful vehicle! Didn't test-drive it but I may have to go back and do so.

2. Yeah, I know.... reliability has been a constant concern for what you're paying, but let's be honest. Jeep, like every other car manufacturer has their own set of issues. But if I'm paying that much the damn thing better work!

3. Paying that much for a Range Rover I'll probably never take off road?? Yeah, maybe I'll stick with my 2015 Overland. After all, I'm probably getting even more options on my Overland for half the price of a Range Rover with the same off road capabilities.

4. Status symbols? No doubt and maybe one day I'll feel better if I buy a used one. Then again, I don't want to inherit somebody elses potential problems.

5. Maintenance and repair outside warranty? Not sure but my gut tells me it has to be off the charts expensive!

Feel free to chime in especially if you've owned a later model Range Rover. I would definitely be interested in hearing real life comparison stories.

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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

I don't own a RR, but from the looks of it alongside owner reviews, it has just as many or maybe more issues than jeeps. On top of that, the repair costs for these cars are ridiculous.
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

I seriously cross shopped the 2014/2015 Range Rover Sport before I purchased my 2015 V8 Overland.

However, the reliability of the RR Sport is worse then even Jeep. Browsing the RR Forum shows that getting one without any issues is darn near impossible.

The main thing that drew towards the RR Sport in the first place is the performance. It is almost as fast as the 2014/2015 WK2 SRT (0-60 in 4.5 secs) and yet also still has real off road ability. And the new SVR is even faster while still retaining some off road ability.

But that ability and performance comes at a STEEP price. Figure on Double what a Overland, Summit, or even SRT costs.

The performance to $$$ with my 2015 V8 Overland is much better IMHO.
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

Simple solution really:

Price out a "MaxCare" for both vehicles, then buy the one you like and can afford.

If you are paying 80K anyway, what is another $5k for future service?
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

You guys think that having a Jeep repaired outside of warranty is inexpensive?
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

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You guys think that having a Jeep repaired outside of warranty is inexpensive?
Usually I repair my out of warranty vehicles by asking the good lord to lose them in the desert and set them ablaze.
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

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Simple solution really:

Price out a "MaxCare" for both vehicles, then buy the one you like and can afford.

If you are paying 80K anyway, what is another $5k for future service?
80K would be the budget oriented Range Rover.
Add the price of a GC Laredo to get the Autobiography series turbo V8.

Nice vehicles, fast, capable, luxo, with real off road capability unlike the newer Cayenne.

Owned by Tata. Jaguar based engines.

A Summit or Overland can do pretty much what the RR can do for half the cost.

Oddly enough being able to get service without a huge commute, or worrying about getting service on cross country drives made more of a difference in my decision to stick with Jeep than the purchase price did.

I must admit, Range Rover "gives better showroom" than Jeep.
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

While the Jeep is a better value for the money, it also doesn't play in the same category as the Range Rover. Anyone who thinks they would turn down a factory supercharged V8 SUV that is as capable as the Overland and as fast as the SRT and turns as many heads as its two-door cousins (Jags or Aston) and looks as good with some mud on it as Kate the Duchess of Cambridge in a tight short dress, is delusional. The Brits own this segment (I should say design wise 'cause the Indians actually own the brand). The choice sadly comes down to reliability, maintenance costs and even more importantly time lost managing potential car troubles even for those who can afford it.
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

You will definitely find that the interior is built with higher quality materials on the RR. The Grand Cherokee puts the nice material where you see and feel it, but other parts are hard plastic. Coming from Audis, I find it odd to see a stitched leather covered upper dash, with everything that is not cover in leather being hard plastic. It LOOKs OK, but the Europeans don't do it that way. Even a lower level VW has higher quality (seemingly anyway) door panels and trim. Look at a Cayenne, X5, Q7, RR, etc., and you won't find hard plastic anywhere. Honestly, I am fine with that, as I don't really care about the stuff I don't touch is made of as long as it doesn't look super cheap and lasts. That has to be a big part of the difference in cost between the Grand Cherokee and the Euro competition. Jeep did a great job with the surface finish on the plastic panels, with the one exception being the stupid embossed warning (or whatever it is) for the storage pocket on the lower front door panels. That looks VERY out of place IMO.

A Range Rover, or any of the new Euro SUVs are not vehicles that I would want to own outside of warranty. I work with a lot of independent European repair shops and Range Rovers are always among the worst for maintenance and repair, not just in cost but frequency. Perhaps somewhat surprisingly, Porsche Cayennes have a couple of common issues, but as a whole are super reliable, especially the Turbos. Brake jobs are frequent and not cheap, but I think the SRT GC guys are finding the same issues.

Personally, for a daily driver I like that they make a ton of the Grand Cherokees. To me that means that parts will be plentiful and likely relatively inexpensive in the future. Like with our previous GMC Jimmy, where I could find wheel bearings/axles/whatever on a Sunday afternoon at 5 stores within 10 miles of my house or dirt cheap on rockauto.com if I could wait. If your 5-10 year old Range Rover needs parts, good luck...
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

I owned a 2002 P38 that I gave up on at 150,000 miles. The thing to keep in mind with Range Rovers is that they are beautiful cars, but the build quality is severely lacking. I lost track of the number of motor rebuilds, suspension rebuilds before I relented and converted to coils and complete hydraulic braking system rebuilds I did over the years. Those are just the major things. Little things like window regulators that need replaced annually, temperamental locks that would completely Superlock (Yes, "Superlock" is a thing - google it!) you out of the truck, water leaks, oil leaks, etc. are just the "normal" quirks. I never made it one calendar year without spending at least $5k in service. One particularly harsh winter, I was hit with the trifecta of motor, suspension and brake issues. That was almost a $15k winter.

When I gave up on the RR, I purchased a 2014 Overland. I figured worse case, if it was as bad as the RR, at least it would be cheaper to fix. One year and 36k miles later, I had no issues. Not a single one. So, I upgraded to a 2015 Summit. Almost 6k miles later and not a hiccup. Both of those Jeeps have done something the RR never could - go at least six months without a major issue.

My philosophy about RR's and Land Rover in general is having one is like dating a cocaine addicted supermodel. At this point in my life, I'd rather have the girl next door.

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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

Range Rover and Jeep both are bad when it comes to reliability. Even with the Range Rover being more expensive, it also has a longer new car warranty which means it will be covered longer from major problems and stuff. Most people lease which means the longer new car warranty is more beneficial to customers since the car will be covered for the duration of the lease unless its a ridiculously long lease.

I haven't owned a Range Rover yet but with my Jeep I am noticing a lot of problems with it (even though its the base Laredo). I have a few family members and friends who have Range Rovers and Range Rover Sports and they are all happy with them. They sometimes act up and they drive well but for the most part they have had less problems with their Range Rovers than I am having with my current GC.

If I had to choose between the two I would choose the Range Rover (who wouldn't?) because it would be leased and the warranty will cover all of the major problems it may have while I have it and then I would just turn it in at the end. With my GC I hope there is nothing major that breaks down on it since my lease passes the new car warranty by about 13K miles.
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Re: 2015 Range Rover VS Grand Cherokee (Overland/Summit)

A friend of mine had a 2013 RR Sport that he traded for a 2015 JGC Limited. He loved the RR and it was a damn nice vehicle but is perfectly happy in the Jeep with about half the monthly payment.

After riding in his RR a few times, and now owning a '14 Summit for a few weeks, I don't know why anyone would pay the Range premium. I have every option the RR did except the refrigerator in the center console lol. For the money, I'd get a WK2 SRT any day over the Range.
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