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If start/stop can't be turned off then I may have to go to the hemi. I don't want that feature.
Maybe the real idea behind start/stop, is to continually reboot the computer(s) without having to disconnect the battery. That way the transmission's programming will always be fresh.

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Re: 2016 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

I have had the Stop / Start in GM vehicles. It was seamless, you had to look at the tach to see if the engine had stopped running. It was just as smooth on the restart. You would not be upset driving a car with it if it worked as smooth as GM's did. Not all car makers have it bug free yet. It does save fuel in those stop and go situations . I believe the trans has a starter in it that does all the work.
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Re: 2016 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Doesn't the inside of the car get screaming hot when it's 100F and the engine shuts off (and therefore the A/C)?
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:51 PM
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Doesn't the inside of the car get screaming hot when it's 100F and the engine shuts off (and therefore the A/C)?
I'm sure it's like our 15 Cherokee with the feature. If the cabin temp is too far from what the climate control is set to, the feature is disabled.

I'm not sure why there's so much hate for this feature. (Not directed at anyone inparticular) It's not bad, kinda nice sitting at a light in silence. Car starts before you even get your foot off the brake. You can push a button to turn it off (though it's back on next time you start the car) you can use your brake foot to turn the engine back on early if you want to. The starter and battery are beefier to handle it.

It works well on ours and if you don't like it, push the button. It is the way of the future though. Sitting there wasting gas while not moving is not a good thing.
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I'm sure it's like our 15 Cherokee with the feature. If the cabin temp is too far from what the climate control is set to, the feature is disabled.
Hmm, so for Florida, this basically means no start/stop in the first place...
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Re: 2016 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

I've driven a Stop-Start vehicle.

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Didn't really notice a difference. Now if you're a jack-rabbit with the brake and gas, you might have a problem, but a normal takeoff... no. The only annoying thing about it is hearing the engine restart over and over. I'm sure that over time, you'll just "get used to it".
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Old 07-19-2015, 07:12 AM
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Golf-cart technology makes it way mainstream

That's great if you're a senior living in a retirement community down in FL and rely on one to get around.

I'm not and I don't.
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The only annoying thing about it is hearing the engine restart over and over. I'm sure that over time, you'll just "get used to it".

Had rented (for work) VW with this technology. I couldn't stand hearing the engine restart over and over. Of course I only had it for a few days but it was pretty annoying.

If you have loud exhaust will you always hear it gurgle during he restart?


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I've driven a Stop-Start vehicle.

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Didn't really notice a difference. Now if you're a jack-rabbit with the brake and gas, you might have a problem, but a normal takeoff... no. The only annoying thing about it is hearing the engine restart over and over. I'm sure that over time, you'll just "get used to it".
I've never been a jack rabbit with the brake and gas but I do drive a stretch of highway that has been bunged up by poorly placed and out of sequence stop lights that creates a backed up traffic and inch worm bumper to bumper stop and go situation. Personally, I see no benefit or need to be starting and stopping an engine 100 times in a 3 mile stretch of road every work day. I can only imagine what this would be like for someone living in a metro area that really has to deal with stop and go traffic.

Now, if FCA is making the start/stop a feature that can be turned off once and forgotten about, then fine. If you have to do this every time because the default is always on when you start the vehicle, then it just adds to the PITA of the preflight checklist you have to go through to turn other stuff on/off based on your personal liking. I guess that's still better than having no ability to turn it off at all.
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If you have loud exhaust will you always hear it gurgle during he restart?
Makes me think of a kid with a ricer and those damn pop can mufflers. Can you imagine what that would be like?
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I've never been a jack rabbit with the brake and gas but I do drive a stretch of highway that has been bunged up by poorly placed and out of sequence stop lights that creates a backed up traffic and inch worm bumper to bumper stop and go situation. Personally, I see no benefit or need to be starting and stopping an engine 100 times in a 3 mile stretch of road every work day. I can only imagine what this would be like for someone living in a metro area that really has to deal with stop and go traffic.

Now, if FCA is making the start/stop a feature that can be turned off once and forgotten about, then fine. If you have to do this every time because the default is always on when you start the vehicle, then it just adds to the PITA of the preflight checklist you have to go through to turn other stuff on/off based on your personal liking. I guess that's still better than having no ability to turn it off at all.
After learning from the dislike of the Eco mode 'default on' and changing that to a 'last use' default, you would think they would follow the same logic with this feature.

I've said this before, but FCA keeps reinforcing my opinion that they select people for their market studies who will tell them (or be manipulated) what they want to hear. Then, only after customer backlash do they do it right. The shifter, the eco mode, and eventually they will have to let you leave the radio muted.

I just read that the eBrake will engage if the driver's door is open and the car is not in park. Someone else noted that the seatbelt might be involved also. I guess they never drove a car onto a lift with the door open so you could see exactly where your wheels were.

Sounds like a union requirement turning this into a 2 man job.


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I've driven a Stop-Start vehicle.

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Didn't really notice a difference. Now if you're a jack-rabbit with the brake and gas, you might have a problem, but a normal takeoff... no. The only annoying thing about it is hearing the engine restart over and over. I'm sure that over time, you'll just "get used to it".
Any word on the mileage gains the "improved" v6 will see? Glad to see they are putting effort into getting a bigger mileage gap between v6 and v8 its really not significant enough currently. But im not at a fan of the driving feel of the stop start feature, i get it concerning sitting at a stop light for a few minutes but edging along every few seconds in stop and go traffic will make you want to bang your head on the dash. An off switch with memory is something i would hope they have.
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