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Old 10-28-2015, 04:21 PM
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2016 Jeep Predicted Reliability

The December consumer reports arrived today and had a chart for predicted reliability for 2016 vehicles. In a ranking of 1-28 with 1 being best Jeep scored 27th out of 28 of that they rated the best and worst reliable of the manufacturers vehicles. Wrangler was rated jeeps most reliable and Cherokee was rated jeeps most unreliable, probably that whacked transmission in the Cherokee. Interesting chart to look at but I like looking at charts with overall owner satisfaction vs these reliability ratings, in the end overall owner satisfaction is what matters more to me.

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Re: 2016 Jeep Predicted Reliability

Jeep and other FCA brands have consistently been among the worst in reliability for years. 7 recalls and a tow on my 2014 fit the rating well. I love the looks, features, performance, etc but the poor quality is forcing me to look elsewhere...


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Consumer Reports is bad about taking an issue like the numerous problems the V6 models have had with their transmissions and telling customers to stay away from ALL Grand Cherokees, despite the relatively few issues the other drive trains have had.
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Humm weird, I have owned two WK2's, a 2012 Overland V6, and now a 2014 Summit V8. Both vehicles have been flawless. F consumer reports is what I say. Never have and never will read that junk. If it were up to consumer reports we would all be driving base model Toyota Camry's.
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My 2014 summit v8 has been back 18 times for non maintenence new car issues in the last 2.5 years, mostly minor issues yet things that needed fixed. Jeeps initial quality is abysmal, they belong at the bottom concerning initial quality. I love my jeep and I'm glad I got it but working out the new car bugs took awhile. Consumer reports needs to also focus more on overall owner satisfaction because a car can have lower reliability but still be well liked by people. I'd take jeep with a few issues rather than a boring a to b Toyota anyday.
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Re: 2016 Jeep Predicted Reliability

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Consumer Reports is bad about taking an issue like the numerous problems the V6 models have had with their transmissions and telling customers to stay away from ALL Grand Cherokees, despite the relatively few issues the other drive trains have had.
One thing that drives me up a wall with Consumer Reports is that their ratings for everything can be great, but then they'll have a poor rating for the audio system or something and that gives the entire vehicle a poor rating. Their rating is the lowest score of any item on the list, not a weighted average.

I find all of these reliability ratings basically useless. I have owned vehicles that had marginal ratings and plenty of pissed off owners, yet I never experienced any significant issues (note that I did not say they were problem free--they just did not have major issues that left me stranded or were a safety hazard).
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Humm weird, I have owned two WK2's, a 2012 Overland V6, and now a 2014 Summit V8. Both vehicles have been flawless. F consumer reports is what I say. Never have and never will read that junk. If it were up to consumer reports we would all be driving base model Toyota Camry's.

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Re: 2016 Jeep Predicted Reliability

The thing with Jeep, and Chrysler in general, is that when compared to other brands they typically are rated pretty low by all the organizations. It's not like only CR finds them lacking, or that it is only occasionally.

I've owned 2 Jeeps, one was 100% trouble free for almost 4 years. The next one I left behind after a year and a half.

I'm hoping the next one will be like the first.


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Re: 2016 Jeep Predicted Reliability

While I am not saying FCA or Jeep are perfect, take a look at the Ram brand. Very low, barely above Jeep, in the CR rankings.

Yet in other reports, like JD Power, the Ram is quite high, frequently above the Toyota Tundra (which, if memory serves, was at the bottom the of the ranking this last round), and yet somehow Consumer Reports gave the Tundra the best rating among 1/2 tons.

I like to look at Consumer Reports as part of some of my research, but their stalwart loyalty to Toyota amuses me. I am not saying all Toyotas are terrible or that they are the worst out there, I am simply saying that many other review places are much more neutral and reliable in their stances when it comes to automobiles.
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F consumer reports is what I say. Never have and never will read that junk. If it were up to consumer reports we would all be driving base model Toyota Camry's.
This.

What I find hilarious about CR and any of the other auto sites/blogs is one article will be something like this reliability with the a model rated low and another article will be about best buy's with the vehicle rated high.. Go figure.
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Re: 2016 Jeep Predicted Reliability

I've never been a CR fan. Years ago we had little else to rely on for product reviews, but research today is much broader and easier with simple net searches. Quite often reviews by individuals with real world experience differ widely from the staged CR reviews.
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The December consumer reports arrived today and had a chart for predicted reliability for 2016 vehicles. In a ranking of 1-28 with 1 being best Jeep scored 27th out of 28 of that they rated the best and worst reliable of the manufacturers vehicles. Wrangler was rated jeeps most reliable and Cherokee was rated jeeps most unreliable, probably that whacked transmission in the Cherokee. Interesting chart to look at but I like looking at charts with overall owner satisfaction vs these reliability ratings, in the end overall owner satisfaction is what matters more to me.

What whacked transmission? My Cherokee is two years old and I have never had a problem with it. Let me tell you the problem with Jeep and the Cherokee in particular. Consumer Report and the general public expect the Jeep to ride, drive, and perform like a foreign car for a soccer mom. Jeeps became cool and so the general public wanting to be cool rushed to buy them. The public didn't do its research as to how a Jeep rides, drives, and performs and so now the public and Consumer Report is bad mouthing the Jeep. Ever look at the vehicles Consumer Report recommends? I wouldn't own one let alone put one in my drive way.

PS: The biggest problem with the Cherokee transmission is people throwing flashes and TSBs at it trying to get it to shift softly like a foreign luxury vehicle. Like I said my Cherokee is two years old and shifts just fine, but then again I have not done any of the flashes or TSBs to it to screw it up. The flashes have gotten so bad that one dealership in my area will no longer perform transmission flashes and flat out refuses to do them.
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