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The wife and I went and test drove a 2017 Ford Explorer Limited last night. Overall, not too bad. I really liked having captain seats in the 2nd row and the 3rd row option. Although I felt that for a $51,820 car that the interior was lacking. A lot of plastic everywhere and the steering wheel was hideous with a million buttons all over it. The Jeep interior just blows it away in my opinion.

I also got to use CarPlay and that is definitely a must have feature for me. It worked so amazingly well. To be able to see all of Apple Music (just not your library) was awesome. It also didn't start playing the first song in my library! Having access to your full phone including visual voicemail was great too. Receiving/sending texts was also fantastic and blows away the UConnect system that is clumsy and not great. It was also nice that you can listen to Sirius radio and use Apple Maps on screen. Overall I was super impressed with CarPlay and have to wait for it in the Jeep now. After reading some comments here about it, I was expecting it to be worthless.

I don't think I'll be getting the Explorer, but am wondering if anyone here has experience with a recent one?
I had a 16 explorer sport and went to a 15 Jeep. Should tell you everything you need to know. I will never own another Ford. Their quality control is the worst I have ever seen on a vehicle.
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I had a 16 explorer sport and went to a 15 Jeep. Should tell you everything you need to know. I will never own another Ford. Their quality control is the worst I have ever seen on a vehicle.
Funny, I've been driving a Ford Escape for almost 2 years with three trips to the dealer. Two were for oil changes. I bought it to replace my early build MY14 JGC Overland. In a year and a half I had well over a dozen dealer visits and had 2 outstanding recalls when I traded it.

I don't think any company has great quality control. We throw the dice and take our chances.

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Let's get straight who is an "idiot" (I'm quoting your insult).



4) He said he basically plugs in EVERY time he gets in the car to keep his battery charged. So he doesn't care that Car Play requires it and nobody else should either. That's how this started. He said he gets 5-7 hours per charge (iPhone 6s-Plus). ONE group of people I know of that needs that much battery is in their teens and female. That play games and talk constantly on their phone. Most normal users of modern top end phones get through a day with out extra charging. I put a wink on the 14 year old female. He didn't get the joke. And apparently you didn't either.

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I don't have one game on my phone "bro". Maybe it didn't occur to to you that I may use my phone for work? I'll explain it next time I pull up to the drive through
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Re: 2017 Grand Cherokee - Features & Changes

Just visited the official Jeep site...you guys can build and price a 2015 or 2016 if you want to.
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Let's get straight who is an "idiot" (I'm quoting your insult).

1) Most users are NOT happy car play requires being plugged in EVERY TIME YOU GET IN THE CAR. That s$cks. And one of the reasons I don't care as much about Car Play as I did. I still would have liked the hardware upgrade though.

2) Just because you are NOT plugged in doesn't mean it has to sound like crap. Many ways to deal with that. Go read about it. uConnect "via" does it now. There is no compromise on Audio. Not everyone listens to high fidelity either. Pod Casts, Talks shows etc. will sound fine over regular bluetooth.

3) Not everyone wants Car Play for Music. One of the biggest features people want is better Navigation with apps like Google Maps that is always a fresh map, great traffic and great alternate routing. Why do I need to plug in for that? I'd love to have that on the big screen and I don't want to have to plug in to get it.

4) He said he basically plugs in EVERY time he gets in the car to keep his battery charged. So he doesn't care that Car Play requires it and nobody else should either. That's how this started. He said he gets 5-7 hours per charge (iPhone 6s-Plus). ONE group of people I know of that needs that much battery is in their teens and female. That play games and talk constantly on their phone. Most normal users of modern top end phones get through a day with out extra charging. I put a wink on the 14 year old female. He didn't get the joke. And apparently you didn't either.

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Great post. I should have done the same and tested it out like you did. Maybe I could have waited longer. The 2017 Summit is so nice though.

Did you try their lane assist by chance?

Also a lot of people don't realize a really nice feature in Apple Maps, Google Maps and Waze. That you can enable "HFP" (Hands Free Protocol) in those apps. Google on how to do it. That allows you to have Navigation going and Listen to Sirius Radio (or FM, USB, SD) at the same time. When a Nav direction prompt comes up it will interrupt the Radio and switch to Hands Free Protocol just like a phone call will. When the Nav prompt is done it will switch back. I use all the time. It's just that the Map is not on the big Screen
I did not try the lane assist. After spending 20 minutes in a parking lot trying to get the Park Assist to work (It never did, it just "searched for a spot* forever), I gave up on the driving features. It did parallel park itself...kind of. It hit the curb and then cancelled it out. The salesman wasn't with us and when we came back he was bragging on how "the parallel park is so good, you'll never scratch your tires parking again!" Yep, whatever you say!

Yep, HFP works great in my wife's 2015 Challenger. I wish my 2012 Grand Cherokee supported HFP, but it doesn't. That would at least make my wait for CarPlay a little bit easier.
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Funny, I've been driving a Ford Escape for almost 2 years with three trips to the dealer. Two were for oil changes. I bought it to replace my early build MY14 JGC Overland. In a year and a half I had well over a dozen dealer visits and had 2 outstanding recalls when I traded it.

I don't think any company has great quality control. We throw the dice and take our chances.

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...It did parallel park itself...kind of. It hit the curb and then cancelled it out...
So would curb rash b covered under warranty since the JGC did it all on its own? 😁
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So would curb rash b covered under warranty since the JGC did it all on its own? ��
I think the driver still needs to step on the gas, brake, and shift gears. The car steers.

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I think the driver still needs to step on the gas, brake, and shift gears. The car steers.

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I was looking at the build sheet for the '17 Summit with 5.7 Hemi. It comes with the same transmission as my '14 Overland. That transmission was built in Germany an purchased from ZF.

According to the sheet the same transmission is still 'bought', but apparently built in the ZF plant in South Carolina.

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