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2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk takes on the Rubicon Trail

JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE TRAILHAWK EDITION TACKLES THE RUBICON
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Re: 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk takes on the Rubicon Trail

Holy rock stacking Batman!
I love my Overland, but am fully willing to admit it's not an off roader.
I love Jeep, but, they have really got to stop trail rating the new offerings.
I've had SJ's, XJ's, WJ's, and now a JK and a WK2. While the WK2 may be the best off roader in it's class, or at least one of the best in it's class, promoting it's ability to tackle a serious off road trail is very much a stretch.
In my opinion it reflects poorly on Jeep.

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Re: 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk takes on the Rubicon Trail

Yes it is a bit disingenuous to market the car as an all conquering off-road fourwheeler that in the hands of any regular driver it could cross America's toughest trail. Besides, Jeep is not the only manufacturer guilty of that - look at Range Rover and their Expedition America marketing ploy.

I see the Grand Cherokee as an overlanding vehicle, one that is capable of long distance driving, at times traversing challenging terrain in remote, or unexplored regions. Everyone agrees that a Wrangler is better suited for hardcore off-road straight off the showroom floor and most people use it for recreational fourwheeling where the purpose is to overcome challenging obstacles.
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You guys need to look at a couple of Victor1960's videos.
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You guys need to look at a couple of Victor1960's videos.
I am well aware of Victor's videos. Victor does not have the mentality that he cannot prove himself in an off-road situation unless he slapped big fat tires on 33 inch rims on his ride and manly climbed every single boulder knee high or taller in his path...
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promoting it's ability to tackle a serious off road trail is very much a stretch.
In my opinion it reflects poorly on Jeep.
So the Trailhawk didn't make to the end of the trail? Why wouldn't you advertise the capabilities of this vehicle?


We do need more commercials of cars driving up the I-5 changing lanes and parking in a garage. I would also not show the increase in travel of the Quadra-lift system ( since that doesn't reflect most "use"), rather show how it lowers itself when you park to make getting in that more easy ( after the buffet)


From Laredo through SRT, be thankful there's still a manufacturer that actually gives that many options.
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Re: 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk takes on the Rubicon Trail

Even though the "primary" focus for JGC isn't this level of heavy off-road, it's impressive to know that Jeep wasn't afraid to test it this hard, because even for the majority of us who are "road pounders", knowing that there's some extraordinary capability under us can be comforting because "stuff happens".
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Re: 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk takes on the Rubicon Trail

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So the Trailhawk didn't make to the end of the trail? Why wouldn't you advertise the capabilities of this vehicle?


We do need more commercials of cars driving up the I-5 changing lanes and parking in a garage. I would also not show the increase in travel of the Quadra-lift system ( since that doesn't reflect most "use"), rather show how it lowers itself when you park to make getting in that more easy ( after the buffet)


From Laredo through SRT, be thankful there's still a manufacturer that actually gives that many options.
Last sentence - Agreed...
With regard to the commercials, I know you are being facetious, but I would like to add...
Jeep did a series of commercials for the '14, one showing the GC blasting along in 2 feet and deeper snow, that was real, that was impressive given most manufacturers show 4-6 inches. I liked that, it was good example of what it's capable of. When Jeep was releasing the '11, they had an awesome commercial of the rig plugging away in the forest, crossing streams and the like, very well done.
Showing it's true capabilities are much more impressive to me.
And I realize other manufacturers are claiming to conquer the Rubicon... doesn't make it "right".
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Re: 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk takes on the Rubicon Trail

And why not ?
Ican't figure out why "we Jeepers" seem so critical about a G.C. TRAILHAWK on the Ruby-Trail ! It has many added features (standard) + this one has the Mopar Rock Rails too ! AND, don't forget, the Rubicon Trail does have many Secondary "go around" stretches for the "timid-at-heart" ! Besides, (in my opinion) the folks that do the trail are driving an older Fixer-Upper and know what they are doing, OR a Newer Jeep like a G.C. and don't care about damages as long as they can make it back home in one piece (i.e.; they got the $$$ to fix or replace !). Boy, IF I were one of the "later," I'd take my Laredo 75th w/ORA1 as far as the "go-around" sections would allow!
The scenery is TERRIFIC, and the Jeep People as company can't be beat - so they all say, One video after another . . . . Yay Jeep !
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Last sentence - Agreed...
With regard to the commercials, I know you are being facetious, but I would like to add...
Jeep did a series of commercials for the '14, one showing the GC blasting along in 2 feet and deeper snow, that was real, that was impressive given most manufacturers show 4-6 inches. I liked that, it was good example of what it's capable of. When Jeep was releasing the '11, they had an awesome commercial of the rig plugging away in the forest, crossing streams and the like, very well done.
Showing it's true capabilities are much more impressive to me.
And I realize other manufacturers are claiming to conquer the Rubicon... doesn't make it "right".



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Yes it is a bit disingenuous to market the car as an all conquering off-road fourwheeler that in the hands of any regular driver it could cross America's toughest trail. Besides, Jeep is not the only manufacturer guilty of that - look at Range Rover and their Expedition America marketing ploy.

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THIS is an 'Overland Journal' video, not an FCA US (Jeep) video ! BUT, Jeep would have NO Qualms with the "free advertising" (neither would I).
THIS is the TRAILHAWK & am sure (just by looking) it has ADDED protections offered by Mopar (options like the rock rails that are visible), and let's not forget, the Rubicon Trail AIN'T what it was (back in the day) ! Lots of new "Go-Arounds" to be had for those less sure with less capable vehicles! THIS is NOT one of them. But, I sort of agree (in general), after all, who in their "right mind" willingly subjects such an "On-Road" worthy Jeep to such Off-Road "Tom-Foolery" ? Many More than I care to imagine, that's who ! And so it is, and so it shall be written . . . . . . . !
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Re: 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk takes on the Rubicon Trail

I have run the Rubicon Trail twice, once in 2001 with the Jeep Jamboree running a 97 TJ Sport - f+r lockers, 3 inch lift, 33s. It was a very rough and long trail. Only damage was bent the lip of a steel wheel.....hammered back and aired back up no issue, never needed to be strapped or winched. Ran it the second time in 2014 with a few friends figured it would be easier cause all I heard was how easy it is now..... running a 12 JK 2 door Rubicon, 2 inch lift 33s. I had to be strapped 2-3 times, winched once, smashed the steering stabilizer, peeled the rear diff cover, dented the rear passenger corner while ripping the rear passenger flare off, and bent steering tie rod.

I had a much better time the first time......maybe it is just very worth it to run with the Jeep Jamboree or JKs aren't as awesome as TJs or maybe the trail just isn't that easy.......whatever the case, if a Grand Cherokee made it on the Rubicon Trail I'm impressed and happy that Jeep still cares about the off road performance, even though most will not use them to their full potential.....
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