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Old 05-15-2013, 09:46 AM
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How does the V8 or Diesel differ?
The V8s don't get the electro-hydraulic power steering.
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:49 AM
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

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I actually like the new shifter and very rarely will I miss a shift. The detents feel just like a traditional PRND pattern...
My only gripe about the paddle shifters is that it is attached to the Wheel. Which can be hard to shift if you are making a turn as now the shifter is near the top of the stearing wheel or even on the complete otherside. Makes it tricky when trying to use your right hand to shift the whole time and have to bend and twist your arm to stay where the shifter is.

It would of been much nicer if the paddle shifter was in the same spot, but not attached to the wheel so that when you turned, the shifter would remain in the same spot.

I don't know, maybe thats just me lol
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

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The V8s don't get the electro-hydraulic power steering.
hmm, so what's the take on this? is one preferred more than the other? major real-world difference as far as road feel / feedback etc?
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Old 05-15-2013, 10:48 AM
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

No such thing as "road feel" in a 4x4 SUV...



Joking aside, I notice no difference in steering feel between the electro-hydraulic system in my GC opposed to say my old 2011 Xterra PRO-4x.

Less parasitic drag using an electric motor instead of a conventional belt driven pump saves on gas.

In the future I can see all cars & SUVs with a complete "drive by wire" system for steering...dumping all the mechanical linkages completly. Heck...they've already done it for throttle control on some cars.

Less parts, less cost & maintenance, less weight...wave of the future for the automobile.
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

On the shifter thing... it could be worse, you could have a stick on the side of your steering column and occationally after driving another vehicle you will shift into Neutral instead of getting windshield wipers.

Also in comparison to the Dial shifter (RAM), I will take this any day because it is one thing to need to look at the dash for gear position, another think entirely to fumble around looking for the damn shifter al together.
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

So far I haven't had too many problems with the transmission. I do feel in sport mode it doesn't down shift as smooth as it should, but I can use the paddles to make it hold the gears it needs to be in and down shift better than it's programed to do. I don't get the hate for the shifter though. I love it and it has become natural for me to hit any gear I need on the first try. My wife still has trouble shifting to park and often will end up in reverse or vice-versa. She thinks it's over complicated, but she's not into technology like I am.
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

My only issue relates to downshifting while coasting. As soon as I take my foot of the gas the system downshifts and continues to do so forcing me to apply more gas to maintain smooth forward motion. It is similar to a manual transmission in this respect except I get to decide when to downshift in a manual. My VW CC with the DSG transmission also downshifted but it was far more "natural" feeling
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

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Every time I turn around somebody is trying to drag me into the 21st century.

One of the first things I did was switch the display, and you are correct in that it does help. I just think it's a step backwards that after 40+ years of driving, I now have to look at the dash to shift an automatic transmission.

I don't mind the technology, but how hard would it have been to use that same lever and have 5 distinct detents?
I felt the same until I read the manual and found out there are stops in the electronic linkage. Park is easy just push the side button on the stick and shove it all the way up to the stops, instant Park no matter what mode the stick is in.

Reverse one slight click down, to get into drive from reverse don't touch the side button and just push down till the stick stops, you are in D.

From Park to D, push the side button and slide the stick all the way down till it stops. You are in D.

All of the above without looking at the display. I can see how you might miss Reverse from Drive as it is two clicks up and they are small clicks.

I actually like the small travel of the stick. As for the transmission shifting, eco mode makes a mess out of it, too early upshifts, late downshifts. Take it out of Eco and all the problems disappear smooth as silk.
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

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I still think the shifter is a mistake. This is the only car I have ever driven where I have to always double check to see if I am in park. I don't understand why Chrysler couldn't keep a conventional interface even if the lever was connected to switches.
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There is just no feel to the new shifter. IMHO they should have just put a rotary knob just like in RAM and be over with.
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

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There is just no feel to the new shifter. IMHO they should have just put a rotary knob just like in RAM and be over with.
I hear bad things about the knob shifter too... I think there is reason to the insanity, come out with 2 completely different electronic shifters and watch the Forums for a year and see which one people hate less.

I say it that way because, low travel distance and less moving parts in very important in making a trouble free shifter. The Mechanical shift interlock stuff simply doesn't stand up over time so the electronic ones are the way it is going to go. Not going to out a supplier but I seen one manufacturer with tons of cars hitting the 6 year mark and huge failures.

Not saying it is right, just saying that we are all being dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming but there MAY just be some benifits down the road (pun intended )
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My only issue relates to downshifting while coasting. As soon as I take my foot of the gas the system downshifts and continues to do so forcing me to apply more gas to maintain smooth forward motion. It is similar to a manual transmission in this respect except I get to decide when to downshift in a manual. My VW CC with the DSG transmission also downshifted but it was far more "natural" feeling
Ditto.

I'll also get an occasional clunky upshift from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th.

Edit: I never use ECO mode
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Re: 8 speed transmission review

Not sold on the electronic shifter. Most of the reasons have already been stated by others. Love the vehicle otherwise.
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