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Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014

Just go to a CVT and be done with it.
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As soon as they make one that can handle more power than a golf cart or compact.
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Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014

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As soon as they make one that can handle more power than a golf cart or compact.
Nissan has used CVTs behind the VQ35 for a decade or more and they hold up. ~300hp give or take 10% on them in CUVs and bigger sedans.

They can do it but typically people who buy V8 and big vehicles are less concerned with the fuel savings of the CVT. And I'm not sure I'd want to try towing with a CVT.
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:46 PM
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Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014

Man, my Specialized Rock Hopper has 21 gears, can't wait till the jeep catches up.
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One of the head folks from ZF has stated that 9 speeds are the theoretical limit for transmissions. Apparently, the gains in performance, smoothness, and efficiency are too minimal to be worth the extra complexity and weight.

For what it's worth the new Cherokee (NOT Grand Cherokee) will most likely be getting the new ZF-designed 9 speed transmission that Chrysler will be using. The 9 speed is not designed for the higher torque applications of the CRD or HEMI, so don't expect the 9 speed to show up in the Grand Cherokee.

Also, Land Rover is behind the times. Jeep already has a 21 speed transmission available in the Compass: All Things Jeep - Men's Jeep Compass Hybrid 700c Bicycle- Satin Gray
That and the fact the 9 speed is a front wheel drive transmission.
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Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014

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That and the fact the 9 speed is a front wheel drive transmission.
Two variants for the new 2014 Cherokee - 9-spd FWD/AWD and 9-spd 4WD.
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Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014

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Just go to a CVT and be done with it.
So true. Maybe they will update the Buick Dynaflow transmission... so cool and shiftless in 1959.
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Two variants for the new 2014 Cherokee - 9-spd FWD/AWD and 9-spd 4WD.
So are they going to make one with a transverse engine and a longitudinal engine?
The one I was just looking at this morning appeared to kind of be built for just a fwd platform...
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Re: 8 speeds is soooo 2014

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So are they going to make one with a transverse engine and a longitudinal engine?
The one I was just looking at this morning appeared to kind of be built for just a fwd platform...
I'm sure it would be designed like the middle setup in this pic.

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I'm sure it would be designed like the middle setup in this pic.

I know that one of them will be, but the way I took what milous said they are going to have a true 4x4 with a transfer case not a ptu.
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I know that one of them will be, but the way I took what milous said they are going to have a true 4x4 with a transfer case not a ptu.
"4x4" is often now used to say it has a low range. The Compass/Patriot offered 4x4 because it used the CVT to make a "low range". It wouldn't surprise me if they had a low/high range gearing type setup despite having a transverse engine.
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The 2014 (Small) Cherokee will have a 9-speed transmission

9-speed seems like overkill for a small car.
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