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Re: A Subaru Legacy put your Jeep to shame

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I strongly encourage you look up video comparisons between Subaru AWD and that of other competitors, especially FWD based ones, and especially videos that show the cars with 1) one or more wheels lifted off the ground; 2) one or more wheels with less traction than the others; 3) or cars stopping on an incline and then attempting to resume forward progress.

Yes, the Subaru was modified for ground clearance and approach angle. Fair allegation, the vehicle was not stock. Compares favorably though with "slightly modified" Jeep Wranglers. None of us valiant Jeep owners commenting in this thread would follow the Subaru in HI range and dropped in Park or Sport modes. When did you last drive on slick rock and lifted wheels off the ground?
With a modified suspension, any Audi or other AWD vehicle that has a good reputation for traction could have handled those situations.

Regarding the last sentence, the answer is about 14 months after I took delivery. It was even less time for my full size F150, which didn't even have off road tires.

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Re: A Subaru Legacy put your Jeep to shame

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Compares favorably though with "slightly modified" Jeep Wranglers.
Really? Mine = 2" spacer lift (stock springs/shocks etc.), bumpers and tires... I want to see the subbie doing this...

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Re: A Subaru Legacy put your Jeep to shame

The crown victoria is slightly modified as well, no hubcaps.
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Because it did it without low gearing and/or lockers and/or 33 inch tires and/or 20 inches ground clearance...
Where on the Moab trails is that?

Is that up behind the old city dump, where before you crow too much, a 65 Corvair
also made it across the rocks. Not very fast, sacrificed a gas tank, but made it.
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Subarus the new hipster vehicle. Volvos got to expensive so they moved their Starbucks coffee cups and iPhones over.

Is it true Subaru owners get a color matched benie on custom orders?
Volvos are the situational-awareness-challenged yuppie vehicle of choice. i.e. folks who don't know what a mirror is for other than make-up, have no idea why the left lane is not a good place to try hypermiling, and prefer to cross no fewer than 5 lanes of heavy traffic [minus blinkers, or the wrong blinker] to get to their exits.

Subarus are for folks who need a decent, reliable, non-gas hog, vehicle to deal with terrain and conditions with moderate cargo space for hauling "stuff"
A few drivers have difficulty distinguishing four wheel drive from four wheel stop, but the vehicle is stout enough to handle a tow strap.
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All this showed me is how fugly the Legacy is. I wouldn't be caught driving this hipster vehicle.


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Re: A Subaru Legacy put your Jeep to shame

There is no such thing as a free lunch, or a V6 Subaru engine.
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Many people on this thread think that America is the whole world....why is World Series of baseball called World Series? Shouldn't US teams be competing with other baseball leagues around the world for the title?
No. But thank you for asking.
PS. "America" does cover slightly larger physical territory than "USA"
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The subbi put on a good show. I like things that are different, and someone taking a newer stockish subbi to Moab is indeed different, so, good for you.
All else being equal, I'd rather be in the Bentley that some folks took to Moab.
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Re: A Subaru Legacy put your Jeep to shame

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No. But thank you for asking.
Why not?

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PS. "America" does cover slightly larger physical territory than "USA"
I am sure some people on this forum didn't know that either.
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Re: A Subaru Legacy put your Jeep to shame

The only SHAME I see is the OPs in his pathetic attempt to gain posts on something that is so obviously wrong & stupid.

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Re: A Subaru Legacy put your Jeep to shame

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The subbi put on a good show. I like things that are different, and someone taking a newer stockish subbi to Moab is indeed different, so, good for you.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and while I am not a fan of subbi styling I have heard people say they don't like the current Grand Cherokee... my feelings are not hurt... they probably drive a subbi or Prius... .

I'm not sure what you intent was posting that it embarrasses Jeep, but, I'm certain if you are honest with yourself you will admit you know better. They are 2 different vehicles engineered to provide different services to their owners. I have a high suspicion that the 2 are not seriously cross shopped by knowledgeable people.
The Jeep will always haul more, tow more and be more capable off road then the subbi, and the subbi will always be more affordable, get better mpg and fit in smaller garages/parking spots.

I'm not a subbi hater, when I was younger I lusted over the Legacy wagon (not outback, long before that was born) and have always respected the WRX STI and really like the BRX or whatever its called. Real neat cars. Simply, Jeep better suits my needs... subbi does not make a vehicle that compares, and, you'll not find me on a subbi site posting a vid of how much groceries I can load up or how perfectly a Starbucks coffee fits my cupholder or how if I coast downhill I get get 99mpg.

Take care.
Actually the MPG sux on those "Subbi's". A co-worker that just got one is kind of ticked about it. It really should do much better for it's size and weight.
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