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Old 08-06-2013, 04:35 PM
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Re: Adaptive Cruise Control Stop-go

Well, I'm bummed we can't get these on our '14s. But, it's not something I can't live without. The system works pretty well as-is.

I also haven't heard of this happening. Strange that some '14 Jeeps out there will have it and some won't, and it's not via the process of ordering a particular option.

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It happens a lot with various vehicles... not just Jeep. Again as always, not defending them on this but it is pretty normal in the auto industry.
I agree it happens a lot across all industry's,Jeep are bringing out LDW on the GC too, but when, we don't know, so they might slip that in too..

I just forked out a small fortune on an iPhone 5, yet to discover iPhone 6 is dropping next month :-( It happens alot..
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Re: Adaptive Cruise Control Stop-go

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Well, I'm bummed we can't get these on our '14s. But, it's not something I can't live without. The system works pretty well as-is.

I also haven't heard of this happening. Strange that some '14 Jeeps out there will have it and some won't, and it's not via the process of ordering a particular option.

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Depending on the type of area you live in it definitely would have been something nice to have.
The sad thing is that what if someone is looking at them on a lot and half of them have it and half of them don't and you don't know enough to look for the difference of a NH1P or a NH3P and you buy the one without it not knowing. Seems a little wacked to me.
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Depending on the type of area you live in it definitely would have been something nice to have.
The sad thing is that what if someone is looking at them on a lot and half of them have it and half of them don't and you don't know enough to look for the difference of a NH1P or a NH3P and you buy the one without it not knowing. Seems a little wacked to me.
The chances are the average person probably won't even know.
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I agree it happens a lot across all industry's,Jeep are bringing out LDW on the GC too, but when, we don't know, so they might slip that in too..

I just forked out a small fortune on an iPhone 5, yet to discover iPhone 6 is dropping next month :-( It happens alot..
Except the difference between an iphone 5 or an iphone 6 is like the difference between a model year 14 or a model year 15, you would expect improvements from one to the other.
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First time I have experienced this in my car buying. I guess the old don't buy the first of a new model makes a lot of sense not just from a quality stand point but in terms of what you will miss by not waiting a couple of months.

One thing for sure, Jeep owners are way more active than the average buyer. From my perspective across brands, Jeep owners are more involved and informed than almost all other brands. The fact that you have someone like Milous giving the updates on these details really is just exceptional. Most people don't realize something is different unless they drove 2 of the same vehicle in the same model year.

It happens to the negative too, I have had 2 x 2013 Equinox as company vehicles this year. The newer one, the radio doesn't work properly with my phone any more. I asked and they said it was my phone, and that yes there was a new improved radio mid year.... tried 3 other phones, they didn't work either. awesome mid-year upgrade . You can imagine the language I might have used
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In the UK press release they did state that ACC w/stop and rear entertainment system would be available after model launch.. Dealers also told me that the ACC will be available on later models September deliveries. I think over here they been pretty much out in the open about it, it didn't look like they have in the US though..
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One thing for sure, Jeep owners are way more active than the average buyer. From my perspective across brands, Jeep owners are more involved and informed than almost all other brands. The fact that you have someone like Milous giving the updates on these details really is just exceptional. Most people don't realize something is different unless they drove 2 of the same vehicle in the same model year.

It happens to the negative too, I have had 2 x 2013 Equinox as company vehicles this year. The newer one, the radio doesn't work properly with my phone any more. I asked and they said it was my phone, and that yes there was a new improved radio mid year.... tried 3 other phones, they didn't work either. awesome mid-year upgrade . You can imagine the language I might have used
That is a good point we are far more easily informed than we were 20 or 30 years ago. Maybe the manufactures should keep that in mind more.
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That is a good point we are far more easily informed than we were 20 or 30 years ago. Maybe the manufactures should keep that in mind more.
I love being informed. But it's not without its drawbacks. There's a phenomenon called the paradox of choice. The cliff notes version basically states that if we are offered too many choices, we're less likely to be happy with our decision. I guess the line of thinking goes that once we commit, we're always left with the lingering thought "What if I would have made this choice instead..."

I'm certainly the epitome of this concept. I usually research a product to death before I make a choice, hoping I made the right one afterwards.

I'm thinking of the scenario a few others have brought up. A customer goes to a lot and sees 10 different JGCs with already more than a plethora of configurations (colors, models, options - of which some are individually selectable yet others bundled together) and then could conceivably be bewildered by a strange mix of ACC variations that most likely the salesperson won't be totally sure of either. Or, they'll buy one and then find out later that the same make, model and configuration as they just bought somehow manages to have yet another feature they didn't know about and now want to have. Sounds convoluted to me, and I think this sort of business policy isn't a great idea in the long term for Jeep.

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I love being informed. But it's not without its drawbacks. There's a phenomenon called the paradox of choice. The cliff notes version basically states that if we are offered too many choices, we're less likely to be happy with our decision. I guess the line of thinking goes that once we commit, we're always left with the lingering thought "What if I would have made this choice instead..."

I'm certainly the epitome of this concept. I usually research a product to death before I make a choice, hoping I made the right one afterwards.

I'm thinking of the scenario a few others have brought up. A customer goes to a lot and sees 10 different JGCs with already more than a plethora of configurations (colors, models, options - of which some are individually selectable yet others bundled together) and then could conceivably be bewildered by a strange mix of ACC variations that most likely the salesperson won't be totally sure of either. Or, they'll buy one and then find out later that the same make, model and configuration as they just bought somehow manages to have yet another feature they didn't know about and now want to have. Sounds convoluted to me, and I think this sort of business policy isn't a great idea in the long term for Jeep.

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As humans we'll never be content, we always want more!!:-)

This sort of thing is standard across the industry, it's not just jeep, all manufactures do it all the time. I remember when I had my S5, which I ordered new. After 3 months, Audi added "Audi connect" feature to the media system and added metallic white to the colour range.. Was quite pissed as the "Audi connect" is really cool similar to Uconnect 3G. Mazda did a similar thing with the MX5, they facelifted it then added a folding hard top as standard months down the line. Current owners must have been even more pissed, but that's the way it goes unfortunately..

ChryslerJeep added stop feature, they knew it's a minor edition, which is not really a majour change, hence not waiting for MY15.
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If you paid any attention you would know that several options are "late availability" it happens....
Yep, so folks who really wanted this feature could have waited..
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