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Old 07-31-2013, 05:44 PM
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Re: Adaptive Cruise Control Stop-go

I sent a request to my service manager on this to see "when" an update will be available for those of us who already have 14s with the basic adaptive cruise. Will see what he says
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:49 PM
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Re: Adaptive Cruise Control Stop-go

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I sent a request to my service manager on this to see "when" an update will be available for those of us who already have 14s with the basic adaptive cruise. Will see what he says
I believe Milous is looking into this. I also have got some resistance on the answer.
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I believe Milous is looking into this. I also have got some resistance on the answer.
I forgive Jeep for the crappy Fortera tires if we can make the upgrade to STOP START.
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Re: Adaptive Cruise Control Stop-go

I'm wondering how effective the ACC upgrade would be in stop and go traffic. Even as it is with the gap set to the closest setting, I find it responds too slowly and lets too much space in between you and the car in front of you. Consequently, someone invariably zips into that space which makes the Jeep slow down even more for yet another car to do the same.

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Old 07-31-2013, 06:19 PM
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I'm wondering how effective the ACC upgrade would be in stop and go traffic. Even as it is with the gap set to the closest setting, I find it responds too slowly and lets too much space in between you and the car in front of you. Consequently, someone invariably zips into that space which makes the Jeep slow down even more for yet another car to do the same.

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I have actually driven other vehicles with a very similar system. At slower speeds it gets closer to the vehicle (the gap gets closer at slower speeds and further at higher speeds).

I can only assume that since this vehicle shared the technology platform that it would function very similarly in the final version.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:28 PM
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Re: Adaptive Cruise Control Stop-go

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I'm wondering how effective the ACC upgrade would be in stop and go traffic. Even as it is with the gap set to the closest setting, I find it responds too slowly and lets too much space in between you and the car in front of you. Consequently, someone invariably zips into that space which makes the Jeep slow down even more for yet another car to do the same.

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Responds too slowly? That's worrisome. The system should be faster to react than a human.

Also, while I do it myself, following so close that someone is unable to get in front of you is generally illegal, and dangerous. I would prefer ACC not put me in a position to easily get in an accident. If I'm THAT worried about not letting someone in, then I should be willing to manage the speed myself.
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Old 07-31-2013, 06:42 PM
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Responds too slowly? That's worrisome. The system should be faster to react than a human.
Actually.. you don't want it to act faster than a human.

If it were all twitchy like that, you'd get tossed around like a rag doll every time the guy in front eases forward an inch. The vehicle would lurch around like a drunken fat man with an angry midget stabbing at his thighs.

The vehicle should give pause and verify if the vehicle in front of it is moving consistently, and if so, what's the speed (so as not to gun the engine and send you flying around).
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Responds too slowly? That's worrisome. The system should be faster to react than a human.
I think what he means is that the system is slow to respond to speeding back up which lets others in front of you.

I think the system should have two settings that we choose from. A quick response and a more lagging response. That way I can tell the Jeep that I am in stop-n-go rush hour and being a bit jerky to keep the pace is okay. I could also let the Jeep know when I am on a 6 hour long trip and to take it easy and not be jerky.
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I think what he means is that the system is slow to respond to speeding back up which lets others in front of you.

I think the system should have two settings that we choose from. A quick response and a more lagging response. That way I can tell the Jeep that I am in stop-n-go rush hour and being a bit jerky to keep the pace is okay. I could also let the Jeep know when I am on a 6 hour long trip and to take it easy and not be jerky.
Audi has settings in the MMI menu that allows for comfort or dynamic, the latter being more responsive and accelerates in a sporty manner.. Who knows? Maybe Jeep might implement this on next gen 2017 model year :-)
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Re: Adaptive Cruise Control Stop-go

I see people referring to the ACC as "stop and go" which might lead to expectations/ assumptions that are not correct. It's just "stop." Just to repeat what Milous reported earlier in this thread...(I will add underline emphasis):

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Adaptive Cruise Control-Plus (aka Adaptive Cruise Control w/Stop and Enhanced Adaptive Cruise Control) is significant for its capacity to bring the vehicle to a complete stop without driver intervention in certain conditions. Radar and video sensors identify the locations of vehicles traveling ahead of the vehicle. The sensors also help ensure the vehicles are separated by a gap determined by the driver. If the gap is dramatically breached, the ESC system can aggressively deploy the vehicle’s brakes to affect a full stop, even if the driver never touches the brake pedal. To resume travel, the driver need only press a button on the steering wheel or tap the accelerator pedal.
I'm just pointing out that the "enhanced" cruise control with stop does not automatically resume once the vehicle is brought to a complete stop. (Minimal) driver intervention will be needed to resume from a complete stop.
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I see people referring to the ACC as "stop and go" which might lead to expectations/ assumptions that are not correct. It's just "stop." Just to repeat what Milous reported earlier in this thread...(I will add underline emphasis):



I'm just pointing out that the "enhanced" cruise control with stop does not automatically resume once the vehicle is brought to a complete stop. (Minimal) driver intervention will be needed to resume from a complete stop.
Thanks for the clarification, that's an important distinction.
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I see people referring to the ACC as "stop and go" which might lead to expectations/ assumptions that are not correct. It's just "stop." Just to repeat what Milous reported earlier in this thread...(I will add underline emphasis):

I'm just pointing out that the "enhanced" cruise control with stop does not automatically resume once the vehicle is brought to a complete stop. (Minimal) driver intervention will be needed to resume from a complete stop.
I think it's just confusion with other systems out there, BMW's ACC will automatically resume after vehicle has come to a stop, but within 5 seconds or so, probably hence the name "stop and go".

Looks like the Jeep does not do this :-(
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