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Old 01-29-2012, 05:10 PM
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The BMW system doesn't pick up speed in most bumper to bumper situations in practice because it is slow enough to react that the distance opening up invites others to cut in... so you end up not moving at all.

Using cruise control of any kind in traffic is dangerous, do we have to send you back to driving school for a refresher?

Wasn't the BMW system initially plagued with unattended acceleration features?

The JGC system is certainly conservative, not as aggressive as others on the market.
Why would one use a system like that in multi-lane traffic? Most roadways are single lane areas in both suburbs and country areas. Using cruise control at all can be dangerous as drivers tend to take their attention someplace else..... your point is what? Are you trying to discredit the 1st run of the BWM system regardless of their success over the pass.... oh I don't know 3 or 4 years? Which is long before non-luxury cars just as Jeep in the states are able to put the basic system in their cars.

No one can convince me that a system that its only edge over a plain jane system is that it can only slow itself down and speed its self up is worth the top price that any car maker is asking. Then you have to worry about the system failing which would enable the whole cruise control system useless along with you running into something which would cost more to repair. Its a novelty item and nothing more.
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Re: Adaptive Cruise package - get it or skip it?

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Then you have to worry about the system failing which would enable the whole cruise control system useless along with you running into something which would cost more to repair. Its a novelty item and nothing more.
I think it has already been stated numerous times that the ACC is a separate entity than normal CC. You can use normal CC without enabling ACC. The price also includes 3 other features, the most useful to me being the blind spot monitoring and rear cross-path detection. $1000 was chump change to me when I was already dropping $41k and I think the cost was well worth the benefits. Have you even driven a WK2 for extended periods w/ the ACC / blind spot package? Regardless, most items on a vehicle could be classified as a novelty to one person or another.
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Re: Adaptive Cruise package - get it or skip it?

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Why not get it? Because when the whole "Oh my car can slow it self down" factor wears off, you will be stuck with a system that you have over paid for and sooner or later (if you keep the truck) have to fix in order to have a cruise control. You will always hear people regretting not getting it..... thats because its a new tech gizmo that they haven't had a chance of getting bored with. I keep telling you people, $40,000+ for a car/truck isn't nothing, most midsize cars/suvs go up to and pass 40K, the Jeep is nothing special.

Only if the cruise control can stop the car and pick up the speed is when I can see it as a plus to have.

Yeaahh ok man. First off what are you talking about once the wow factor wears off your stuck with a system I over paid for? I use cruise control ALL the time on my commutes why would anything wear off? And then you say over paid for it? Uhhhh, its like twelve hundred dollars. Thats a steal for adaptive cruise, blind spot monitoring, and whatever else is included. And your point about having to fix it....If you live your life thinking everything is going to break on your vehicle then I suggest you get the most basic vehicle made then. I dont think the cruise control system will fail, and if it does I will get it fixed who gives a shit.

I think the adaptive cruise, blind spot monitoring, and cross path detection is an unbelievable value offered by Jeep. If you asked me before I knew Jeeps price for this package, I would have guessed maybe a $3,000 package....but $1,200?? why would someone not get this package especially on a $40,000+ vehicle. Its nothing!
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I think it has already been stated numerous times that the ACC is a separate entity than normal CC. You can use normal CC without enabling ACC. The price also includes 3 other features, the most useful to me being the blind spot monitoring and rear cross-path detection. $1000 was chump change to me when I was already dropping $41k and I think the cost was well worth the benefits. Have you even driven a WK2 for extended periods w/ the ACC / blind spot package? Regardless, most items on a vehicle could be classified as a novelty to one person or another.
I've driven two cars (non WK2) with those features for an extended amount of time along with a WK for a short amount of time (3 hours or so). Its a waste.


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Yeaahh ok man. First off what are you talking about once the wow factor wears off your stuck with a system I over paid for? I use cruise control ALL the time on my commutes why would anything wear off? And then you say over paid for it? Uhhhh, its like twelve hundred dollars. Thats a steal for adaptive cruise, blind spot monitoring, and whatever else is included. And your point about having to fix it....If you live your life thinking everything is going to break on your vehicle then I suggest you get the most basic vehicle made then. I dont think the cruise control system will fail, and if it does I will get it fixed who gives a shit.

Not sure why all the hate for cool advanced features, go drive a Ford Escort if you hate all these kinds of things. Or wait, your signature says you drive a Ford Escape...those are cool.
Get over yourself, adaptive cruise control is only new to the U.S. market..... and even then, its only new to non-luxury cars only. It isn't cool, nor advanced. The market on most cars are selling this system at an inflated rate. I guess you just don't know any better. I take good pride in my Escape..... seeing as in the next 3 years, my truck will cost the same on the used car market as a WK limited.... a truck that cost $10K more new then my truck.

Really I think some people in this thread need to call this guy

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Re: Adaptive Cruise package - get it or skip it?

Well your opinion seems to be the minority to people who actually own and use it.
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Well your opinion seems to be the minority to people who actually own and use it.
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Re: Adaptive Cruise package - get it or skip it?

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Well your opinion seems to be the minority to people who actually own and use it.

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I LOVE the ACC system in my 2012 WK2. While none of these systems removes the requirement for the driver to always be aware of their surroundings, they do offer an added layer of protection. They also provide a system that eases the stress and strain encountered during long commutes and freeway driving.

I simply set my speed accordingly and can then simply concentrate on streering along with monitoring my 360 degree vehicle spacing while my foot is resting over or near the gas and/or brake pedals.

IMHO, this system is worth every penny I paid for it.
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Get over yourself, adaptive cruise control is only new to the U.S. market..... and even then, its only new to non-luxury cars only. It isn't cool, nor advanced. The market on most cars are selling this system at an inflated rate. I guess you just don't know any better. I take good pride in my Escape..... seeing as in the next 3 years, my truck will cost the same on the used car market as a WK limited.... a truck that cost $10K more new then my truck.
Alright we get it you dont like adaptive cruise control and think $1200 is wayyyy too much. Your right, adaptive cruise, blind spot monitoring, and cross path detection should be a $70.00 option I do not own a Overland, but all I know is that if I do buy one it will without a doubt have that package. Hell, I would still get it even if Jeep charged $3,000 for it.
I guess we definately have different ideas of what "cool" and "advanced" is.
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Re: Adaptive Cruise package - get it or skip it?

No idea how much it costs as an option in Australia, but i didnt get it. In my opinion its a waste of money. Im not going to argue that it may be advanced or cool or fun or whatever, but yeah i dont think its worth it. Sure if it came free i'd probably use it. Although i did get a free option that does the same thing.. its called "knowing how to drive" :P

I do think though once you start having all these things working for you while driving, drivers tend to get lazy and pay less attention to the road and can get more dangerous. Specially if you start relying on the system.
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No idea how much it costs as an option in Australia, but i didnt get it. In my opinion its a waste of money. Im not going to argue that it may be advanced or cool or fun or whatever, but yeah i dont think its worth it. Sure if it came free i'd probably use it. Although i did get a free option that does the same thing.. its called "knowing how to drive" :P

I do think though once you start having all these things working for you while driving, drivers tend to get lazy and pay less attention to the road and can get more dangerous. Specially if you start relying on the system.
I wasn't too sure of ACC when I first tried it out. In fact, I stopped using it the first few times thinking it was a waste of time and more dangerous because I didn't know what the heck it was doing. After the fear disappeared, though, I love the thing. Since I've always used cruise control (saves gas, ya know) and have always paid more attention when using it, I don't think it made me less attentive now that it slows or speeds the car up. If there are a LOT of cars around, then I just drive like a normal person and disable cruise control altogether.

As for the blind spot detection system, it has actually saved me more times than not from getting into a lane with another vehicle that just suddenly showed up (speeder switching lanes quickly).

I think it was well worth the money. If you didn't think you needed it for your vehicle and didn't get it, good for you. You made the right choice for yourself. For those that want it or think they'll need it, then it's good to know the option is there to purchase it.
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Re: Adaptive Cruise package - get it or skip it?

Hey - it's hard to get a 100% consensus on anything. There's probably someone on the forum that doesn't like "Mom". With that said, a quick scan of this thread shows that almost everyone who has the ACC package on their WK2 is happy they have it.

For the few dissing the package: You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but you might want to admit you're in the minority.

Oh ... by the way ... I have the package and I love it too
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No idea how much it costs as an option in Australia, but i didnt get it. In my opinion its a waste of money. Im not going to argue that it may be advanced or cool or fun or whatever, but yeah i dont think its worth it. Sure if it came free i'd probably use it. Although i did get a free option that does the same thing.. its called "knowing how to drive" :P

I do think though once you start having all these things working for you while driving, drivers tend to get lazy and pay less attention to the road and can get more dangerous. Specially if you start relying on the system.
It is not an option for us, and is only available on the Overland model as a standard feature. I am sure you would learn to love it Froggy, as I have
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