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Advanced tech pkg question

I couldn't find a reference as to whether the blind spot detection and other features in the advanced tech pkg can be turned off all together. Is this possible?

The reason for asling is to avoid constantly setting off my own radar detector. I guess the secodary question is if anyone is using these features while using a radar detector?

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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

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I couldn't find a reference as to whether the blind spot detection and other features in the advanced tech pkg can be turned off all together. Is this possible?

The reason for asling is to avoid constantly setting off my own radar detector. I guess the secodary question is if anyone is using these features while using a radar detector?
You can disable warning but the Radar stays on.

It is harmless to most good radar detectors.

How many Jeeps on the road are falsing you now?
Which Radar Detector do you have?

GM's, Acura's, Audi's seem to be the worst.

I've had an Beltronics STi-R+ and it was fine.
Escort 9500ix was fine.
Valentine One (latest model) is fine, as long as it's K-Band Filter is on called "TMF2".
I also tried an Escort Max and it may have glitched now and then in close quarters like in the garage. But better firmware has been released since.

I asked the same question on the forums when I got my 2015 Overland with Adv Tech a while back.

You REALLY don't want cross path detection off either, it's fantastic. I could care less about the Blind Spot Feature.
Both systems use the same radar.
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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

iirc the waves used by radar guns(to detect speed), are different from the waves used by the WK2 to detect vehicles in a certain area.

More specifically, iirc(I may be wrong), I'm pretty sure the radar detector uses an active radar, while the WK2 uses a passive radar system.

If I'm correct about this, then because of the differences in active vs passive radar solutions, it'd be difficult(and useless) for radar detectors to detect the wk2's system.

Reading up on the WK2 system, it's definitely a passive system, as it emits no radio waves but instead uses multiple sensors in order to detect what is essentially the difference between when it detects a radio wave in the air, and when it detects the same wave reflecting off of a passing vehicle.

Radar guns are active systems that emit their own waves, therefore making them detectable.

tldr; radar detects shouldn't pick up the WK2's BSM system.
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:26 AM
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Reading up on the WK2 system, it's definitely a passive system, as it emits no radio waves but instead uses multiple sensors in order to detect what is essentially the difference between when it detects a radio wave in the air, and when it detects the same wave reflecting off of a passing vehicle.
Link?

As far as I can tell, the blind spot monitor is an active K-band system.
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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

I have had no problems with my Escort 9500ix. Some other cars around me occasionally cause it to go off with their system, but not very often.
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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

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iirc the waves used by radar guns(to detect speed), are different from the waves used by the WK2 to detect vehicles in a certain area.

More specifically, iirc(I may be wrong), I'm pretty sure the radar detector uses an active radar, while the WK2 uses a passive radar system.

If I'm correct about this, then because of the differences in active vs passive radar solutions, it'd be difficult(and useless) for radar detectors to detect the wk2's system.

Reading up on the WK2 system, it's definitely a passive system, as it emits no radio waves but instead uses multiple sensors in order to detect what is essentially the difference between when it detects a radio wave in the air, and when it detects the same wave reflecting off of a passing vehicle.

Radar guns are active systems that emit their own waves, therefore making them detectable.

tldr; radar detects shouldn't pick up the WK2's BSM system.
It just runs outside the normal police frequencies. So most detectors won't see it. My V1 WILL detect it if I shut off its filter.

It does emit.
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Old 09-24-2016, 10:19 AM
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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

Yup. No problems with my V1 in its current settings.


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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

Thanks for the replies. I'm also using an Escort 9500i. Now that you mention it, I havent noticed any GCs falsing on the hwy. Agree that Audi seems the worst, with Cadillac running a close second.
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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

I've stopped using my RADAR detector because I've just gotten to the point where I'm not running at speeds where I'm likely to get pulled over anymore. Up around my parts, 7-10 over will be ignored.

I ran with the detector for a while when my truck had a cruise control recall due to a fire risk and it was a while before they could get enough parts to get me in to fix it. I worried that my speed might drift up on hills, so I ran it for the extra heads up.

I haven't even use it at all with the Jeep.

The one thing I did like was the Safety Warning System (SWS) that was supposed to be the next big thing. In short, in construction zones or where emergency vehicles where stopped on the highway, a separate warning signal would be sent out that would trigger the SWS warning in the detector. It seems like that never took off because those signals just stopped being sent out at some point.

Personally, now that a lot of states are instituting "move left" legislation for encountering stopped emergency vehicles on the road side or speeding in a work zone, I wish they would send out a separate warning all modern cars could detect to warn of an upcoming stopped emergency vehicle or construction zone.

I will say this, my detector was pretty good at catching laser guns being used on vehicles ahead of me. I came over a hill once and the laser tone went crazy. Close to a mile ahead was a state police car clocking other drivers. I could barely see him when the detector warned me.
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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

I'm not a fast driver, I'm an ignorant one and don't always catch the speed limits, especially on back country roads I'm unfamiliar with. That's how I've always been tagged. Going 40+ on some road marked 30. I've never had a ticket on the highway.

One ticket can cost well over $1000 in insurance. And if you have an accident then that can raise your costs $1000's. So it's all about insurance of keeping your driving record clean. I feel I drive better with a radar detector.

My wife got sandwiched between a multiple car pile up in an ice storm. Car stopped in front of her that hit another car that hit another and she was hit in rear. Not her fault but insurance says it was and insurance went up. Now if she got a ticket or had a ticket the cost is astronomical. Even though she has never had a ticket she enjoys having a radar detector. As long as it doesn't false to much.

Some states or counties are way more aggressive about issuing tickets (generating revenue) than others. So it partly depends where you drive.

We calculated the cost of a co-worker that was under 25. We calculated his first ticket would be $4500. He immediately got a radar detector.
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Re: Advanced tech pkg question

I just got my Escort Max 2 installed in my 2017 WK2 Trailhawk with Lux and Safety/cross path everything, the detector works just like it did in my JKUR, works great, I have all the systems active as well. HTH
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Now just to get Audi to design their system in a similar fashion so following one on the highway isn't so annoying!
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