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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

I am concerned as well.

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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

How much longer would it take a Jeep to stop with just rear brakes?


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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

You guys are way overreacting on this.

I've seen cars with that hose being tight at limits before like others have commented.

I strongly suspect given where the suspension pivots are it won't get tighter as you raise it either.
It might even slacken or stay the same length with less bend.

How about a picture showing it, kinked?

EDIT: Oh, that was the definition of "Kinked" by the OP. Not.

Didn't look very kinking in the OP.
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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

I just had a look myself. The OP picture IS at it's extreme and it is NOT "Kinked".

Mine did not "kink" at either extreme.

A kink would be the hose collapsed and has restricted flow. It is NOT doing that.

Poor GC has enough issues without creating ones that don't exist.

You should find better mechanics that realize this isn't an issue and is quite normal.

Those flexible break lines are extremely tough too.

If you want to deteriorate your relationship with your dealer, go right ahead and show them your concern.
I'm sure they would have a good laugh after you leave.

Both these shots are at the steering limits.

This is one side

This link is a LARGE original if you want to look closer http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3272/1...e18c23_o_d.jpg





This is the other side

This link is a LARGE original if you want to look closer http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3361/1...016caa_o_d.jpg

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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

Hey MSWLOGO, I didn't post this for no reason. I did so to alert people of a potential issue, and asked all to check theirs. I did not know forums have now become the peoples court of freedom of speech. Despite your ill informed comments, the hose DOES have a kink, and the normally round hose, at this point becomes oval, thus indicating the potential for flow restriction. You can continue to display ignorance to other's concerns, and basically if it doesn't affect you, then you have no need to worry!
Only yesterday I was discussing this with a person, telling me they knew of a 2001 GC, when after returning from a short drive, they noticed a strong brake/clutch type smell from their frontend.... you guessed it....their brakes were slightly engaged enough to maintain enough pressure to create intense heat. The cause???? You guessed it!!!
Take a moment to consider it's not only about you!!

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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

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Only yesterday I was discussing this with a person, telling me they knew of a 2001 GC, when after returning from a short drive, they noticed a strong brake/clutch type smell from their frontend.... you guessed it....their brakes were slightly engaged enough to maintain enough pressure to create intense heat. The cause???? You guessed it!!!

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So, you spoke to someone, who knows someone, who had a brake problem on a 13 year old car?

Seriously, I hope you made Jeep aware of your concerns. I don't really see a problem based on your photo, but it may look different in person.

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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

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So, you spoke to someone, who knows someone, who had a brake problem on a 13 year old car?

Seriously, I hope you made Jeep aware of your concerns. I don't really see a problem based on your photo, but it may look different in person.

Good Luck


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I had not read the year correctly until you mentioned it. I was thinking 2011 when I read it. Good gravy 2001.

My 2002 was a beast. I loved it. That's why I bought the 2014.

I had normal maintenance done on it up to when I sold it at 217K.

Last bit of work done was new break lines that run across the rear axle. The break lines never failed but they had seen some that did and mine showed early signs of exterior corrosion after 200K. Also did new front calipers. I assume they probably did front hoses at that time too.

I really like my dealer, which is another big reason I went with Jeep.

If something like this (for real) did come up they will keep ahead of it.

Oh, and I HIGHLY doubt it was the rubber brake line that caused his 13 year old caliper to seize !!
Which DOES happen !!! It's called RUST.
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Hey MSWLOGO, I didn't post this for no reason. I did so to alert people of a potential issue, and asked all to check theirs. I did not know forums have now become the peoples court of freedom of speech. Despite your ill informed comments, the hose DOES have a kink, and the normally round hose, at this point becomes oval, thus indicating the potential for flow restriction. You can continue to display ignorance to other's concerns, and basically if it doesn't affect you, then you have no need to worry! Only yesterday I was discussing this with a person, telling me they knew of a 2001 GC, when after returning from a short drive, they noticed a strong brake/clutch type smell from their frontend.... you guessed it....their brakes were slightly engaged enough to maintain enough pressure to create intense heat. The cause???? You guessed it!!! Take a moment to consider it's not only about you!! Happy days!
A fluid line becoming oval doesn't generally restrict flow, especially in minimal-flow hydraulic systems such as your brakes. You simply need to maintain surface area to transmit pressure.

A ruptured brake like will not cause a caliper to seize as your friend of a friend experienced. A 12-13 year old caliper will easily seize if not properly maintained.

I don't think anyone is prohibiting you (or anyone else) from expressing concern. They're just replying with experience and indicating that they don't believe this is necessarily a cause for concern or alarm. You started all this by indicating that there IS a problem -- before causing widespread concern, it would likely be better to ASK if it's a problem and understand the situation better before announcing it as something everyone should be fearful of.

I would advise you to address your concerns to your dealership service department. If this is a valid concern they will act upon it, especially given the liability of not doing so (since brakes are involved).
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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

I have to agree that they are very tight. It does not make me worry right now because they are still new, but after few years when the material gets older we may get serious cracks on the outside side of the curve. I personally would not leave the Jeep parked with the wheels turn all the way to the end and keep tension on the brake line. I also checked my 04 Overland and there this condition is not possible because the brake line makes U shape to the wheel compared to Z shape on the WK2. Couple of inches more longer line would not hurt for sure. Hopefully they are not made in China and the crimp ends will hold on the way they are now...First pic is on the wheel side and second is on the chassis side, passenger side.
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Re: Alert: My14 gc brake line concern

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No kink in the pic you posted or any of the other pics.

Not concerned.

The kink may not be prominent in the picture, but there definately is a bend there. Like I said, it is only an alert, if it doesn't affect you, then lucky you. Sorry to have awoken you.
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The kink may not be prominent in the picture, but there definately is a bend there. Like I said, it is only an alert, if it doesn't affect you, then lucky you. Sorry to have awoken you.
You said in OP you were gonna take it to the dealer on 3/7.

What did they say?
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