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Old 03-01-2014, 12:54 AM
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

Has anyone had any updates? We all understand that the real issue is the harness. I've got amber LEDs ready for install...I just need to know if I can buy OR MAKE a harness for compatibility. Also keep in mind that there are red/amber switchback (stays red until flashing then turns amber) LEDs out there...maybe we can make something out of that "Aux Aperature" and turn a redundant reverse light into that safer turn signal some of you spoke of. I wish the US would adopt EU safety standards.

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I did write it up somewhere else in the board. I check and link it here. It's an 8 hour job, not very difficult, but you some relays and a lot of wires.
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Here it is, let me draw a picture to help with the wiring. Yes, I had to rewire everything. The taillight housing allows the outer backup lamps to be replaced with yellow bulbs = turn signals. I installed 4 relays to feed left turn signal, right turn signal, rear fog light, brake lights. I wired the front blinkers to the rear, on the passenger side of the car (through the hole in the firewall for the battery cable) to the two relays (placed under the subwoofer) The original wires had to be cut, and I connected the relays to the backup wire of the taillights. The cable to the taillights enter the car under the rear bench, left and right side. That kept the wiring easy as soon as you found out the color codes;-) The I connected a wire from the center brake light, fed it to a relay and that to the cut original wire to the brake lights. You have to do this because the original wire transported turn and brake signals. The original wire for turn and brake signals coming from the TPIMS in the front has to be grounded using a resistor to prevent error messages and fast flashing. Be aware the resistors get really hot (I used 21 W resistors for LED bulbs). Finally I had to wire and install a rear fog light. You can get the housing as a spare part. I installed a switch close to the light switch and the wire everything to the back. To power everything I put some wires from the battery to the right rear. You can easily follow the original wires and cable paths, attach and use the channels to fix the new wires. I took me 8 hours including unmounting the interior and put everything into place after I finished. Hope that helped Suther
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Old 09-24-2014, 01:37 PM
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

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Here it is, let me draw a picture to help with the wiring. Yes, I had to rewire everything. The taillight housing allows the outer backup lamps to be replaced with yellow bulbs = turn signals. I installed 4 relays to feed left turn signal, right turn signal, rear fog light, brake lights. I wired the front blinkers to the rear, on the passenger side of the car (through the hole in the firewall for the battery cable) to the two relays (placed under the subwoofer) The original wires had to be cut, and I connected the relays to the backup wire of the taillights. The cable to the taillights enter the car under the rear bench, left and right side. That kept the wiring easy as soon as you found out the color codes;-) The I connected a wire from the center brake light, fed it to a relay and that to the cut original wire to the brake lights. You have to do this because the original wire transported turn and brake signals. The original wire for turn and brake signals coming from the TPIMS in the front has to be grounded using a resistor to prevent error messages and fast flashing. Be aware the resistors get really hot (I used 21 W resistors for LED bulbs). Finally I had to wire and install a rear fog light. You can get the housing as a spare part. I installed a switch close to the light switch and the wire everything to the back. To power everything I put some wires from the battery to the right rear. You can easily follow the original wires and cable paths, attach and use the channels to fix the new wires. I took me 8 hours including unmounting the interior and put everything into place after I finished. Hope that helped Suther
If only I was as motivated as you Suther. I wonder if we can just splice from the trailer harness instead. Would that be possible? I know it'd be easier.
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

Looks like this thread is 4 years old now. I am endeavoring to do the same on my 2011 WK2. The red turn signals annoy me and I really want to convert mine to amber. Being an electrician I feel that this should be within my realm but don't know where to start. It doesn't look promising however
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

If I was doing this I would splice the wire from the center portion of the rear for the brake light and a wire from the mirror LED turn signal to the clear portion of the body part of the taillight. That way you would have all the red part light up upon braking and it'd be illuminated like normal when you have your headlights on, and the clear portion would have the amber turn signal part. When you put it in reverse the clear portion of the gate mounted light would still light up white also so people would know you were in reverse and it would cast light enough for the rear camera.
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

Hi, thanks for the tips! This seems to be the common theme with how to do it. There are other options as well, using a converter also works:
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories...rt/C56196.html
What I want to figure out is if the main computer in the vehicle sends out all the signals and if there is a simple rewire somewhere in the main wiring harness. I was in Europe a few weeks ago and all the Jeeps there have amber signals. Something changes between domestic and export vehicles and I wish I knew where it was! I will find something and when I do I will post it and let the forum know
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Hi, thanks for the tips! This seems to be the common theme with how to do it. There are other options as well, using a converter also works:
https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories...rt/C56196.html
What I want to figure out is if the main computer in the vehicle sends out all the signals and if there is a simple rewire somewhere in the main wiring harness. I was in Europe a few weeks ago and all the Jeeps there have amber signals. Something changes between domestic and export vehicles and I wish I knew where it was! I will find something and when I do I will post it and let the forum know
I would think that with this module and the Curt trailer wiring harness, a person could create a 'plug and play' type setup that would allow you to be able to have amber turn signals (in place of the outboard backup lights) without having to cut any of the OEM harness (can be reversed if desired).

I think that might be my next project when the wife let's me spend some more money (just dropped $370 on a 3TB mirrored computer backup system).

EDIT: read some reviews on Amazon for this unit.... One guy mentions that when he uses his emergency flashers the red lights still flash (versus the amber lights flashing). Must be a signal issue, I wonder if our Jeeps would do the same?
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

I bought the converter today from etrailer.com for $25. Once it arrives I will post my either success or fail story. I talked to their tech support people and they assured me that this unit would do the trick.
Now I just need to find out where the wiring harness runs through the back of the vehicle so I can pop this module in there.
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

There is no easy fix to get amber turn signals.*

It will require manual labor.

1. You would have to disconnect the brake light output coming from the brake light switch and stop it from running through the turnsignal switch.

2. Running new positive brake light wires to the rear of the vehicle

3. Move to the back of the vehicle and cut the wires for the used to be the brake light wires. They would need to be moved to the new location of your turnsignals.

4. Connect the wires you ran to the back of the vehicle to the brake lights.

With the WK2 the harness that runs to the taillights run under the rear seat and exit through a grommet in the floor pan.
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Re: Amber rear turn signals (Euro parts?)

the curt type product listed above SORT OF worked for me on the wk......

except that once I went to all LED bulbs......I would get a short light up of the wrong blinker while the box figured shit out.

the quick response of the led vs incandescent was the best i could come up with so I eventually gave up.

i bought a delay type relay thing but was worried about that thing in the car.......
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I bought the converter today from etrailer.com for $25. Once it arrives I will post my either success or fail story. I talked to their tech support people and they assured me that this unit would do the trick.
Now I just need to find out where the wiring harness runs through the back of the vehicle so I can pop this module in there.
Looking forward to your results.

I was thinking that the Curt trailer harness would be a great way to adapt it in without cutting any factory wires (it would snap/connect in between OEM harness and tail lights).

Curt 56009
http://www.amazon.com/Curt-56009-CUR...dp/B001GMX9C2/
Price: $21.99

With this harness, you could 'pass-thru' the marker light power, but send the brake/blinker power to the converter and then bring the separate brake and blinker power back to the tail light and then just replace the white backup bulb with an amber turn signal bulb.

I always try to use OEM connectors to plug modifications into my wiring harness. Less chance of cutting a wire and/or corrosion AND I can easily reverse the 'update' if needed.
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