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anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

I know you probably wouldn't be on this forum anymore if you did

I think if I go to the wrangler forums they may be alittle biased
Moderator please move this if you need to or think it would be best ...

I've never driven a wrangler but have been in the old ones from the late 80's or so .
I know the rides are much improved but reading the expert reviews they say they are still a little squirrely especially on uneven pavement changes, etc. Plus the interior still looks a little unfinished compared to the wk2's but I know thats the point .
What I like is I think they look really cool ( the ones with a small lift and bigger tires (33" max )
I think they may be fun at first but then the bouncy ride and short wheel base would get old after awhile .

My question is : what I mentioned true 2011 or 2012's only ?
Gas mileage compared to wk2's ( v-6 2011,2012,2013's) ?
Overall height compared wk2's ?

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Re: anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

Well I just went the other way. I had an 07, 10, and 14 Wrangler Unlimited. Just put my 14 in for a WK2 I've had for two days now. To me, the WK2 feels a lot smaller and looks less distinctive. But wow, the ride, comfort and noise level change is amazing. I could never get enough gadgets in the Wrangler but the WK2 is amazing. It's also a huge improvement to actually carry on a conversation with my son in the backseat. The premium top was added on the Wrangler in 14 I believe and it made it a lot quieter but this is still night and day. They are two very different vehicles for two very different uses.
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Re: anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

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They are two very different vehicles for two very different uses.
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Re: anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

I too just went the other way. I had a 2011 (3.8L V6) JKU Rubi 6 speed and I traded it in on a used WK2 hemi laredo X in January of this year.

I originally bought the wrangler because I had just sold my dying TJ and wanted another wrangler. I thought I would get the rubi because I didn't feel like putting a ton of money in to mods and could do my light offroading with it and I got the unlimited because I wanted more room than my TJ had. I loved my TJ and miss it every day but I didn't really care for the JKU after a while. The ride was much more refined than my TJ and the interior was light years ahead in refinement, but it was missing something. It didn't have any personality.

For driving dynamics, the ride was decent but the tires did have slippage issues in the rain, twice I had it oversteer on me while making a turn, under very light acceleration. It was DOG A$$ SLOW with the 3.8L. Luckily I have the rubi 4.10 gears and 6 speed manual which made it fairly fun to drive but it was a challenge to get out of its own way. I know its not the point to be fast but once you start modding it gets heavier and the weight really slows it down even more. If you are too heavy on the trail and you get stuck then you have no power to get out of wherever you are.

Lifestyle - yeah it was cool to take the doors off and put the top down but honestly on my TJ everything was simpler and better. The JKU doors were a pain because there were four of them and the top, though wasn't difficult for me as I am 6'4", was difficult for my gf and others to try and put down on nice days. The folding front portion was a nice feature however for those quick drives. although ultimately for me the whole allure of owning a wrangler had passed once I was about a year in to the JKU. My hobbies shifted from offroading to track racing and I needed a vehicle that could tow my track car, the JKU wouldn't cut it. Also, though bigger than a two door and my TJ, the JKU was still smaller than my WK2 and the roll bar gets in the way when trying to load things that you think will fit. You have to take that into account.

If you are seriously considering a JK, I would get at least a 2012 as they came with the pentastar (although early 2012's had issues with the new motor).

To answer your question on mileage: my JKU rubi with 6 speed averaged about 18.5 - 19 with mixed driving. Highest was 20.5 on a trip. My 2012 Hemi WK2 averages 18.5-20 with mixed driving and 23 on a road trip (all gathered from the display so it could be a little off realistically but I am using apples to apples). I would certainly expect your mileage to go down if you switch to a JK. Also, when you add mods and bigger tires they weigh more and add rotating mass which drags your mileage down as well. Ive read on other forums where guys are getting closer to 13-15mpg after adding wheels/tires/lift/etc.
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Re: anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

After selling my '98 ZJ, I almost bought a 2012 JKU. I was ready to order one since they didn't have it the color combo/options anywhere in the state. While waiting for paperwork, I decided to test drive the 2012 WK2. I literally drove it 20 feet and I said, "screw the wrangler.. i want this!". LOL.

I will still someday own a JKU, but it will not be my daily driver. It will be my weekend or short trip toy. We did a 3600 mile trip from CO - NV - CA 2 years ago and the WK2 was extremely comfortable the whole trip. Gas mileage was excellent as well. I think the Wrangler wud have given about 14 mpg.

Like imstriker put, these are two different vehicles for two very different uses.
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Re: anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

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Well I just went the other way. I had an 07, 10, and 14 Wrangler Unlimited. Just put my 14 in for a WK2 I've had for two days now. To me, the WK2 feels a lot smaller and looks less distinctive. But wow, the ride, comfort and noise level change is amazing. I could never get enough gadgets in the Wrangler but the WK2 is amazing. It's also a huge improvement to actually carry on a conversation with my son in the backseat. The premium top was added on the Wrangler in 14 I believe and it made it a lot quieter but this is still night and day. They are two very different vehicles for two very different uses.

Are the 4 door Sahara's and Rubicon's the same as your unlimited as far as length/width which would change the driving comfort ?

They sound like they may be fun at first but then get more annoying than anything This would be my daily driver and no off road.

I have a lift and the biggest tires everyone is putting on around 31.5-32" but the wranglers w/ 33" look nice and aggressive without lifting too muck and killing mpg and not being able to fit in my 6' -8" height garage
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Re: anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

All of mine were the 4 door Unlimiteds. I started with X level and my last one was a Sahara. I did the Sahara so I could get the leather seats, fancy radio, etc. I thought that would be my answer to my next vehicle being more cushy. Really it was the same as my earlier Wranglers. I loved them all but at this point I'm ready to take a break from a Wrangler as my daily driver. People asked me all the time if they should get one and I always said the same thing. If you want a Wrangler, make sure you know what you are getting. They are amazing, but they are loud and the doors clunk. There is not much refinement.

The Pentastar was a big step up in terms of power feel and towing, but not for gas mileage for me. I was getting in the 16/17 area around town when I traded it in, and much worse in the winter. It was too tall to fit in my garage/barn and it was harsh on trips. But no doubt it looked cool and could do anything I needed. The WK2 switch is all about me and my family. To me it looks like just another SUV now in the parking lot but wow the comfort level.
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:09 AM
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. Luckily I have the rubi 4.10 gears and 6 speed manual which made it fairly fun to drive but it was a challenge to get out of its own way. I know its not the point to be fast but once you start modding it gets heavier and the weight really slows it down even more. If you are too heavy on the trail and you get stuck then you have no power to get out of wherever you are.

To answer your question on mileage: my JKU rubi with 6 speed averaged about 18.5 - 19 with mixed driving. Highest was 20.5 on a trip. My 2012 Hemi WK2 averages 18.5-20 with mixed driving and 23 on a road trip (all gathered from the display so it could be a little off realistically but I am using apples to apples). I would certainly expect your mileage to go down if you switch to a JK. Also, when you add mods and bigger tires they weigh more and add rotating mass which drags your mileage down as well. Ive read on other forums where guys are getting closer to 13-15mpg after adding wheels/tires/lift/etc.

The Rubicons are actually the only wranglers I would be intersted in.

Do they automatically come with the better gears ?

How do you think pickup would be with only 33" tires and an automatic as a daily driver with no offroad ?

The gas mileage seems the same .
I get only 16-17 mpg mostly city/some highway with my 3.6 and 2" lift 31.6 tires, a/t tires and I drive fairly mellow.
And I wouldn't want to really go below 15 mpg as my 06 wk v-8 only got 13-14 mpg. But gas was $1.00 more a gallon then

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It was too tall to fit in my garage/barn and it was harsh on trips. But no doubt it looked cool and could do anything I needed. The WK2 switch is all about me and my family. To me it looks like just another SUV now in the parking lot but wow the comfort level.
I have a 6'-8" height door on my garage and the jeep will have to go in there. My wk2 with the RR lift and 31.6 tires has about 4"-5 " to spare but I had to get a shorty antenna .

Any idea what your door height was and was your wrangler stock wheels/ etc ?

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The Rubicons are actually the only wranglers I would be intersted in.

Do they automatically come with the better gears ?

How do you think pickup would be with only 33" tires and an automatic as a daily driver with no offroad ?

The gas mileage seems the same .
I get only 16-17 mpg mostly city/some highway with my 3.6 and 2" lift 31.6 tires, a/t tires and I drive fairly mellow.
And I wouldn't want to really go below 15 mpg as my 06 wk v-8 only got 13-14 mpg. But gas was $1.00 more a gallon then

Thanks for your input !
Up through 2011 the rubicons all had 4.10 gears. 2012 they came with 3.73 standard and the 4.10 was an option (I believe).

With no offroad and a little bigger tire than stock (rubicons come stock with 32") you should be fine. I would still definitely opt for the pentastar years (2012+). That motor has what, 80 more HP than the the old 3.8L. Also the upgraded tranny with the pentastar really helped the auto versions.

If you are worried about fuel economy and not interested in offroading, I would get a sahara with the different gearing and the pentastar 3.6L. put some bigger tires up to 33" and you are golden. If I had went with the lower gearing in a different model my mileage might have been better (but with the 3.8L the performance would have suffered too).
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I have a 6'-8" height door on my garage and the jeep will have to go in there. My wk2 with the RR lift and 31.6 tires has about 4"-5 " to spare but I had to get a shorty antenna .

Any idea what your door height was and was your wrangler stock wheels/ etc ?

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this wasn't directed at me but I can answer anyway, I don't have a garage but I am 6'4" and I was taller than my Rubicon. I had the stock tire size but adding a 33" tire won't make THAT much of a difference. I did not have any trouble pulling in to parking garages in the city as long as they were tall enough for me to walk through. Most parking garages in the DC area are at least 6'6" so I never noticed an issue.
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anybody switch from a wk2 (11-13) to a wrangler same years ?

I did the opposite I went from a 2012 JK to a 2013wk2. Ride hight and comfort its good, my reason for the swap was that for the same amount of money y could get a more refine vehicle that was still capable for the amount of use i had. Key less entry and power windows after 10 months not having them was really appreciated.

I had 33" on stock suspension and that was perfect for me.


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