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Re: Are Grand Cherokees transmissions dependable

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A suggestion... go rent one for a month before spending $50K.
This is actually easier than you'd think, the GC is pretty damn popular as a rental fleet vehicle. I can't think of an airport I've been to recently that didn't have a whole slew of Grand Cherokees in the rental car fleets.

FWIW, the "typical" difference between 4x4 and AWD is having a low range for your 4x4 system. The Jeep has this, and thus is 4x4, its just an automatic 4x4. My previous vehicle was 100% AWD - it would engage the second pair of drive wheels only when the first set started slipping, and did so with no intervention from the driver. However, it had no additional low range, only 2wd or awd as a possibility.
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Re: Are Grand Cherokees transmissions dependable

Yeah agree... I'm trying to keep this simple because the OP has no prior experiences with Jeeps. Personally I prefer the NP242 Select-Trac transfer case where I can drive around in 2wd and then on-the-fly shift into Full Time "HI" while on the road at 40 mph and get through bad road conditions. Then I can shift back into 2wd when all is clear.

If I want to offroad, I simply stop and engage into Part Time "LO" and lock the front and rear axles together and traverse the trails and hillsides. Unfortunately Jeep doesn't offer this style transfer case in the Grand Cherokee anymore.

And they say this is progress..

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This is actually easier than you'd think, the GC is pretty damn popular as a rental fleet vehicle. I can't think of an airport I've been to recently that didn't have a whole slew of Grand Cherokees in the rental car fleets.

FWIW, the "typical" difference between 4x4 and AWD is having a low range for your 4x4 system. The Jeep has this, and thus is 4x4, its just an automatic 4x4. My previous vehicle was 100% AWD - it would engage the second pair of drive wheels only when the first set started slipping, and did so with no intervention from the driver. However, it had no additional low range, only 2wd or awd as a possibility.
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Re: Are Grand Cherokees transmissions dependable

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Yeah agree... I'm trying to keep this simple because the OP has no prior experiences with Jeeps. Personally I prefer the NP242 Select-Trac transfer case where I can drive around in 2wd and then on-the-fly shift into Full Time "HI" while on the road at 40 mph and get through bad road conditions. Then I can shift back into 2wd when all is clear.

If I want to offroad, I simply stop and engage into Part Time "LO" and lock the front and rear axles together and traverse the trails and hillsides. Unfortunately Jeep doesn't offer this style transfer case in the Grand Cherokee anymore.

And they say this is progress..
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Jeep - 4x4 Basics - 4x4 Systems by Vehicle - 4WD SUVs Obviously I need to go drive a GC with Quada-drive II.

From what I am reading, the 2014 GC with its 8 speed transmission is predicted to get 25 mpg on the highway in AWD? My 2004, F-150 is lucky to get 21 mpg in 2WD. Ignorance isn’t bliss so I appreciate the info. Steve
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Re: Are Grand Cherokees transmissions dependable

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I actually thought that the 2WD is the “normal” and then a shift to 4WD as needed as you described above is how it worked. I did not realize that the GC is an AWD. So I had to do a little back peddle explanation to the wife (always understanding). Then I went hunting and found the following Jeep site which gives a good explanation of Jeep’s drive systems:
Jeep - 4x4 Basics - 4x4 Systems by Vehicle - 4WD SUVs Obviously I need to go drive a GC with Quada-drive II.

From what I am reading, the 2014 GC with its 8 speed transmission is predicted to get 25 mpg on the highway in AWD? My 2004, F-150 is lucky to get 21 mpg in 2WD. Ignorance isn’t bliss so I appreciate the info. Steve
21 for the V8. A marginal improvement from 20 with the old 5/6 speed. I pretty consistently get at least 21mpg highway in mine, have seen 24 when running on flat lands.
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Re: Are Grand Cherokees transmissions dependable

Steve, don't be too nervous, every brand of car produced on the market has one of its kind giving it owners hell. Forums are notorious for having people come on them and complain about something. Fwiw, after my dads 4x4 Tahoe got stolen, he went out and bought a4x4 overland cuz he loved it so much. Both he and I have yet to have any problems.

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Re: Are Grand Cherokees transmissions dependable

You're better off reading the link below regarding the various transfer cases and how they work and differ from each other ... plus it has associations with the model years.

Jeep four-wheel-drive systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edit: Jeep site has more details about their current systems here --> http://www.jeep.com/en/4x4/

As far as gas mileage.. unless you decide to pay the extra cost for diesel to get 29 mpg then I would order with the 5.7L Hemi. You can disable cylinder deactivation on the Hemi with a flip of a switch on the 2014.

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I actually thought that the 2WD is the “normal” and then a shift to 4WD as needed as you described above is how it worked. I did not realize that the GC is an AWD. So I had to do a little back peddle explanation to the wife (always understanding). Then I went hunting and found the following Jeep site which gives a good explanation of Jeep’s drive systems:
Jeep - 4x4 Basics - 4x4 Systems by Vehicle - 4WD SUVs Obviously I need to go drive a GC with Quada-drive II.

From what I am reading, the 2014 GC with its 8 speed transmission is predicted to get 25 mpg on the highway in AWD? My 2004, F-150 is lucky to get 21 mpg in 2WD. Ignorance isn’t bliss so I appreciate the info. Steve
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Thanks for all the information and assistance in helping me understanding the 4WD. We went to the Jeep store today and ordered us a 2014 Grand Cherokee Limited. Because we have never seen the car or driven it they agreed to no money down and I have the right to not accept it.<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:PunctuationKerning/> <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas/> <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w:SaveIfXMLInvalid> <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false</w:IgnoreMixedContent> <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <wontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> In the mean time I am going to track down some 4 wheel drive vehicles and continue my education.

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It’s the V6 with Quad-trac II to save on some weight and to allow us to flat tow. We did purchase the tow package just in case we need to move something. We’ll add splash guards (to protect paint from rocks being thrown up from the MH); and probably a running board for the same purpose; and because it’s such a beautiful car a tow bra that will protect the paint and windshield from rocks; a front air deflector to defect 25,000 of the 25,000,000 Florida Love bugs that hit the windshield two season a year; a cargo tray and some mud mats across the floor boards. Install the tow base plate and the towing brake system and we’ll be ready to roll. Again, thanks, Steve
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