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Old 04-23-2015, 04:24 PM
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So I'm slowly convincing myself that the way to go is with the 5.7 Hemi. Reasons are because I know I want a factory tow package and the Off Road Adventure group for skid plates. Hard to find a V6 with those two things. Though I guess I could buy and install the skid plates?


So I've located a 2011 Limited, Blackberry Pearl, with all the things I;m looking for, and only about 16,000 miles. Seems to be in good shape. KBB price puts it at $32-$34K, but its listed at $29.9 K or so. I'm thinking that's a little high even with such low miles. $27K seems more like it at the most. Any opinions?


Anything to watch for on a 2011? I'm seriously considering this one.
You can add the skid plates there are a fairly easy bolt on. All 5 OEM plates will run you around $450 if you do it yourself.

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Re: Better (Best) Year for Used?

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You can add the skid plates there are a fairly easy bolt on. All 5 OEM plates will run you around $450 if you do it yourself.
do you need to drop the gas tank to do that plate? even without the off road package you still get the plastic shield for that right?
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do you need to drop the gas tank to do that plate? even without the off road package you still get the plastic shield for that right?
The gas tanks got nothing just two big plastic gas tanks hanging down, wouldnt take much to punture those. They were the main reason i put the skids on. You dont need to drop the tanks when installing the skids just run your tank down as close to enpty as you can. When you unbolt them they just hang there until you bolt the tank skids on. Having a floor jack helps steady the tank skids as you bolt the up but you dont have to have one. I did all 5 in my garage by myself just put quadra lift all the way up its not a hard job.
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Re: Better (Best) Year for Used?

If you are getting used and plan to keep it for a long time I would avoid QuadraLift (especially if you won't get extended warranty) and large sized sunroof.

What many people don't seem to know is that Quadralift is a closed system. That is it runs on nitrogen, not on air. So if there is even a small leak compressor will not be able to "just pump more air in" - leak needs to be fixed and system needs to be re-filled by dealer using special equipment. Plus if you lose too much of nitrogen your car switches into "limp" mode where you can't drive faster than 25 MPH (or something like that) so that you don't damage your suspension.

Large sunroof has been reported to cause leaks and rattles.

I personally custom-ordered my '11 Laredo X with no sunroof at all and no quadra-lift.
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Re: Better (Best) Year for Used?

Thanks for all the input. Still a little undecided on many aspects. I did read that the quadralift was a closed system, but hadn't found that it was nitrogen charged.

I haven't seen many posts here about sunroof problems. Is that a big issue?

It's nice that the WK2 is holding its value, but is it just me or are they asking a little too much for even 2011's that have fairly high mileage? It's been a while since I've dealt with a dealership (not since buying my 2000 WJ) any tips for negotiating a deal on a used WK2?
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Thanks for all the input. Still a little undecided on many aspects. I did read that the quadralift was a closed system, but hadn't found that it was nitrogen charged.

I haven't seen many posts here about sunroof problems. Is that a big issue?

It's nice that the WK2 is holding its value, but is it just me or are they asking a little too much for even 2011's that have fairly high mileage? It's been a while since I've dealt with a dealership (not since buying my 2000 WJ) any tips for negotiating a deal on a used WK2?
QL is nitrogen charged, early QLs had some issues they made changes in the 14 and above and not many issues reported on those. QL is generally an expensive system to fix if you have issues. If it breaks you can drive it doesnt strand you and it doesnt go into limp but it is a rough ride and something you need to get fixed as soon as you can. I havnt heard of many sunroof problems on here, any sunroof could leak but its not a big problem point on here.
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Re: Better (Best) Year for Used?

So, just to continue this thread a little more.....


I found some time this week to drive a couple of GC's. A 2012 hemi Limited, a 2012 Laredo X V6, and a 2015 Limited V6. Wasn't all that impressed with the Laredo V6, a little more impressed with the 2012 Hemi, though it was a "questionalble" used one. Possible accident on Carfax, seemed a little abused on the interior. But the 2015 V6 was quite impressive. As one poster said previously, the new transmission really wakes things up. Answers a lot of questions (for me anyway) on the need for a Hemi or not. Seems to be pretty quick and responsive, at least as much so or more as my old WJ with the 4.7.


So now my search may be changing toward the 2014/15 years. If I stick with 2011-13 seems I would probable be happier with the hemi, though not so happy with the mpg's.


Are the problems with 2014/15 model years mostly resolved or limited to a certain build date? Are the transmission problems for 2014 all resolved with sw/fw updates?
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I have a 2011 6-slinger 4x4 Laredo and love it... Bought it used and now have 64,000 miles on it. Only problems I've had is the Jeep recalls. If I ever get rid of her I'll buy another wk2, possibly a 8-cylinder for better towing.
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Re: Better (Best) Year for Used?

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So now my search may be changing toward the 2014/15 years. If I stick with 2011-13 seems I would probable be happier with the hemi, though not so happy with the mpg's.


Are the problems with 2014/15 model years mostly resolved or limited to a certain build date? Are the transmission problems for 2014 all resolved with sw/fw updates?
Yeah for sure stick with the 2014/15 models. That refresh is like an entire new vehicle and the interior doesn't even compare. The only things I have heard people say was if possible to avoid the earlier built 2014's but I forget what date that technically goes to. For some reason I recall August of 2013 being that month where after that a decent amount of changes were made in the assembly line. I bought a late built 2014 Summit V8 (april 2014 build) a few weeks ago and this car just blows my mind how amazing it is. Just less than 800 miles on it now and no issues. Although I suppose with only 800 miles on it one would expect no issues lol.
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Yeah, mid august 2013 the MY14 had a whole lot of updates and bug fixes. So go for a sept 2013 or later build date if you really want the 8 speed. As someone already said, the 8 speed on the v6 has been having issues (rough gear changes), so watch for that too. That tranny is a modified design built by chrysler, the 8 speeds on the diesel and v8 are built by ZF.
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Re: Better (Best) Year for Used?

[QUOTE=RCS01;1172621]I recently replaced my 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo with a used 2013 Grand Cherokee Overland. Reasons were similar to yours - flipper glass, more analog controls, hard drive storage/cd player. I chose the 013' because I would still have about a years worth of driving under the Chrysler new car warranty while most used 011 and 012 are over the initial warranty mileage and I assumed the early model issues would have been mostly resolved three years into the production run.

Good move!!! IMO

Make sure you get all the latest flashes/updates for the engine and trans,you'll be glad you did.

Also check for rear end noise.
If these are all done you are laughing.

The 14/15s are nice but the shifter,flipper glass and odd rear spoiler ruins it for me.

I well trade my 2012 Limited when FCA addresses those issues.

In a perfect world, I take only the steering and the infotainment faceplate from the 14/15 and put it in my 2012.

8 speed is nice but not going to scarifice for it.

Enjoy your new truck.
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Re: Better (Best) Year for Used?

^^^ what's weird about the spoiler? I had a 2012 and now a 2014 and if they are different that's news to me lol
As for the shifter it does take some getting used to, but once you do it's like anything else...normal.
The 8spd is amazing!! I had a 2012 Overland V6 and the tranny and overall driving experience was pretty poor. That thing shifted at the most horrible times and I couldn't stand it. Engine was good and the tranny I'm sure was as well, but it was programmed to drive and shift vey poorly and not when you would want it to. I'm sure the Hemi was better for it. Now the new 8spd I can't get enough of it. Hearing that Hemi go through those gears is music to my ears and it shifts so nicely. And best of all if you want a little more fun turn eco off, and for even more fun pop it into sport.
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