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Old 06-25-2014, 09:19 PM
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For those of you that don't like the idea of Carplay or Android Auto, don't fret. It looks like most of these will be optional additional interfaces - almost like a feature that you can choose whether or not to use. Do you want the built-in old maps, no problem. Do you want the latest maps through android and social traffic reporting, then that is there as well.

So in summary, be happy for those of us who will now have the option that we have been looking forward to for so long.
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:44 AM
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Jeep joins Google's Open Automotive Alliance

Greetings,

Whether you settle on Google or CarPlay, the truth of the matter is these platforms are bring forward what technology should be in today's car headunit. Most notably the update navigation options. Here in this case, not only does the map get update more often than the OEM, the software functions are updated along with new features. On all of the OEM system from all the car manufactures, the chief complaint is always the maps. In the same token, the aftermarket HU have been very slow in integrating new technology until now.

You look at Chevy and how they use the smartphone to integrate the navigation into the Cruz is what I consider forward thinking. The app they use is Bringgo, and it is download into the HU for seamless operations.

The real key to these platforms such as Google and CarPlay is how the 3rd party apps are going to work. Music seems not be a problem and social media along with internet browsing. It comes down to the navigation issue. Their are many excellent apps for both platforms that offer you chooses from free to paid, from decent to superior navigation for both online and offline. Traffic apps are important also. Some traffic apps overlay into the navi app during routing. POI and weather apps of all kinds. These are critical 3rd party apps that everybody can use from the city driver to the highway driver and to the vacationer driver. As of today, nothing has been mentioned about these being integrated into CarPlay or Google.

If you are looking for a traditional aftermarket that is superior in every aspect to the OEM, then the Kenwood DNN 991 is the way to go. This radio comes closet to a smart system. However, if you like the built-in GPS navigation, you can only update the maps.

As my fellow member, SEEINGWHITE said, "So in summary, be happy for those of us who will now have the option that we have been looking forward to for so long."

As for me, if CarPlay does not work the way I want to, then will integrate a iPad mini into the system. Time will tell how these platforms will develop. So stay tune.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Jeep joins Google's Open Automotive Alliance

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So in summary, be happy for those of us who will now have the option that we have been looking forward to for so long.
Certainly not unhappy these features will be available, but in the past the addition of new functions/features usually meant out with the old/in with the new. Hopefully all will be happy.
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Jeep joins Google's Open Automotive Alliance

Am I the only one concerned with social networking, social media, and social traffic updates while driving? I think that is dangerous and would lead to accidents. The last thing I want in the Chevy Cruze next to my Jeep is for the teenager to be updating his Facebook page at the traffic light...or worse, when driving.
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Am I the only one concerned with social networking, social media, and social traffic updates while driving? I think that is dangerous and would lead to accidents. The last thing I want in the Chevy Cruze next to my Jeep is for the teenager to be updating his Facebook page at the traffic light...or worse, when driving.
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As I understand it, the Chevy Cruze is only using the smartphone to download the navigation only into the headunit. All other apps does not integrate except for music. The advantage of this system is simple, you get the latest maps (it is know fact that app based offline maps are updated faster than the OEM), corrected software and updated new features. Thus you do not have to buy a new car to get the latest and best navigation. If the aftermarket world would do the same for the in-dash GPS Headunits, then you do not have to run out spend $700.00 to $1,500.00 again. The problem with the mirror functions within the in-dash hu, the navigation does not run as seamless and smooth (Pioneer's AppRadio is another story in itself). The more time you spend getting between sources can led to a potential disaster. This is why Chevy deserves brownie points for their efforts.

I know that both Garmin and IGO Primo have platforms for sometime now that works like the Chevy Cruze and so far no takers. If you read the numerous thread and post over the years here at JeepGarage.org, their has been a strong following that the navigation updates be of the same equal as of the smartphone in all categories. In this day and age, I still can not understand why they have not implemented this.

Music apps is no different than the functions of the CD, usb or sat radio for the music sources. Their is always be some form of distraction. With regards, to traffic, many of the apps today are providing safer ways of viewing and listening to traffic.

Today's teenage when they are accompanied by the parent as the passenger, 99% of the time will not play with the phone for texting and social media. I am most concerned with the teenage who thinks they are pro driver and those rookies playing with the phone for those purposes. Seriously, heavy multitasking does not belong the road. I can not tell how many times both on city and highway roads I see teenagers play with the phone. This issue has come up in many different threads in the forum about teenagers.

On the main audio thread for the Wk2 checkout these excellent threads as well:

2014 8.4 Uconnect WifFi Interface Kit

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The sole purpose of both CarPlay and Google is to provide a seamless way to incorporate the latest technology into the vehicle for both OEM and Aftermarket system. Provide a safe way so the driver does not get distracted, especially over a long period of time. I am for all types of navigational aid and music. However, I still have my reservations on the social media and internet usage by the driver.

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Am I the only one concerned with social networking, social media, and social traffic updates while driving? I think that is dangerous and would lead to accidents. The last thing I want in the Chevy Cruze next to my Jeep is for the teenager to be updating his Facebook page at the traffic light...or worse, when driving.
Yeah, I understand your general concern, but android auto and Carplay should both actually reduce the incidents you are concerned about.

See here:
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/25/58...s-a-good-thing
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not only does the map get update more often than the OEM, the software functions are updated along with new features.
IMHO the bolded section is not a feature to be excited about. Anybody with an Android phone that blindly accepts SW updates knows how quickly a piece of software you know and love can be ruined. In my car I don't want to have to try to figure out a new user interface every few months when they "upgrade" things. Maybe if you can turn off the auto update feature that'd be better.

Re: the map updates, does it actually download new maps for your vehicle's onboard database at some interval or does it go out to the Internet and search for maps each time you punch in a destination / bring up the map?

I'm still not stoked on the additional layer of data mining this will bring.
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I'm still not stoked on the additional layer of data mining this will bring.
All the manufacturers are still saying that it will be optional on top of their regular systems, ie uconnect, etc. So in short, if you prefer not to use it, then you can use the standard infotainment interface.
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What's new? Have had Android & a hotspot in my Heep since 2012 and now combining all of this in a Windows 8.1 tab which can do a lot more.
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Wow. :-)
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IMHO the bolded section is not a feature to be excited about. Anybody with an Android phone that blindly accepts SW updates knows how quickly a piece of software you know and love can be ruined. In my car I don't want to have to try to figure out a new user interface every few months when they "upgrade" things. Maybe if you can turn off the auto update feature that'd be better.

Re: the map updates, does it actually download new maps for your vehicle's onboard database at some interval or does it go out to the Internet and search for maps each time you punch in a destination / bring up the map?

I'm still not stoked on the additional layer of data mining this will bring.
Greetings,

You have notable concern that I agree with regarding data mining. For all intensive purposes the smartphone is a computer and should be treated as one in order to protect your data. Corruption of files exists on both the Android and IOS systems. I do not like to download anything until I read more about the update online and see if the upgrade is worth doing. Therefore, I never have automatic updates on.

First of all, I am from the Apple side of world and it does not both me. In over 37 years with computers, i have seen a lot in my day. Knock on wood since I switched over to Apple a few years ago, I have not seen the blue screen.

So getting back to navigation questions;

So far, for offline map navigation I am using right now as the main app, IGO Primo and I also have Sygic and Navfree. For online map navigation my main app is Motion x and I also have Waze and Inrix. I have not tried Garmin or TomTom as of yet. TomTom is supposed to have a major update to match the new GO PND. Another one that looks interesting is CoPilot which also uses Inrix traffic overlay data. All of these have different user interfaces, but the concepts are pretty much the same. I have notice over the last couple of years, they all leap frog themselves with new features. Right now for highway and long distance driving I prefer IGO Primo. For local and the suburbs, I like Motion X.

For the online maps, the database is updated on the net and therefore you have immediate access to the data including any internal POI updates. For the offline map database, sometimes they will update the map every couple of weeks if a major development in the roads is taking place. Otherwise, it could be anywhere from 2 to 6 months before map update is ready. And for the offline map updates they send you a notification. So again, it is up to the individual user to accept or bypass the update.

For the software updates, both offline and online they send you a notification about the update in there is a new feature or a critical bug fix that needs to be implemented. If the bug fix does not effect me and it is the only reason for the update, I will not perform the update.

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