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Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

I wanted to resurrect a posting I created a time back because my lease is up towards the end of this year on my 2015 Grand Cherokee Overland and wanted to get some input on buying a pre-owned 2014 RRS HSE V6 (new body style) versus a new 2017 Grand Cherokee Summit.

I know people here might be biased and I'm also answering my own questions but let's have fun with this.

Here's the back-story. My two-year lease on the 2015 Grand Cherokee Overland will end later this year. I have been constantly struggling between getting another Grand Cherokee and trying something different like buying a used 2014 RRS HSE V6. These are the only two SUVs i'm interested in. I don't want to afford a new RRS and I'd rather wait and get one off lease closer to 2017 anyway(more inventory).

From all the research I've been doing the RRS HSE comes pretty much scaled down in creature comforts unlike the higher end Grand Cherokee which comes with:

Remote start (also heats and cools down the vehicle)
Advanced Technology Package including Auto Braking, blind spot monitoring and active cruise control
Apple CarPlay (or so I'm hearing in 2017 so we'll see)
19 speaker HK stereo system
ventilated and heated seats just to name a few.

The options in the RRS I'm finding are more limited to the typical options plus maybe heat and cooled seats.

So I'd really be trading all the creature comforts getting in the RRS plus most likely missing the Front Climate Comfort and Visibility package, Luxury Climate Comfort and Visibility Package and Driver Assistance Package, which I hear, are sorta hard to come by on the RRS unless of course it was ode red by a customer that way. These packages pretty much give you Summit options and very expensive options.

Plus, am I right that the 2014 RRS will be nearing its warranty expiration also (3 year;36 months)? So Iíd have to pay more to probably get a certified pre-owned as I certainly would not own one of these outside a warranty expiration!

I can afford to buy a new one but wonít take that hit and not interested in a $1000 plus car payment, especially since I donít really keep my cars past two or three years and the leases are also too expensive as well Iím finding.according to Jeeps website that 2017 has some really nice refinements also!

It also appears that for the price of a preowned (about $60k) I can get back into a brand new 2017 Grand Cherokee Summit for closer to around $50k ish.

So given all this what do you think? The new Grand Cherokee has come leaps and bounds but in no way does it drive like a Range Rover. That much I do know.

Really on the fence here as Iíve been more than happy with the Grand Cherokee. 17k miles in and not one problem so far but the RRS is such a pretty looking vehicle and drives fantastic! Also, feels much more solid. I'm also not oblivious that you're also paying for status too.

i think I know where this will go but need to solidify my decision by Fall/Winter.

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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

The way I would look at this is first off the USED range rover is way more expensive with LESS options and an expired warranty , plus the cost of repairs on that would be way higher than a jeep. With the jeep you are getting a brand new vehicle , with full warranty and all the options. All of those to me add up to a no need to think more on it decision where you are getting much more for your money.You could lease the new jeep or finance it and then trade it when the warranty is up if you wanted and still be ahead of the game.
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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

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The way I would look at this is first off the USED range rover is way more expensive with LESS options and an expired warranty , plus the cost of repairs on that would be way higher than a jeep. With the jeep you are getting a brand new vehicle , with full warranty and all the options. All of those to me add up to a no need to think more on it decision where you are getting much more for your money.You could lease the new jeep or finance it and then trade it when the warranty is up if you wanted and still be ahead of the game.

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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

I think like you said you answered your own question. Seems like a no brainer to me. I can see the want of something different, but I think a 2017 Summit would be different enough from an Overland to fill that need. Summit over Overland, revised front end and interior, and extra options.
The near expired warranty on a Rover would scare me... A lot. I personally also like the Summit styling MUCH more, but obviously that's personal opinion. Also giving up options would be a no go, and for a used vehicle and it would STILL cost more.
Anyway, you see where I'm going with this
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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

I prefer the looks of the Overland to the Summit, interested to see the 2017 Overland, if it has the same front end as the 2017 Trailhawk I think I will like it better than a 2016 or 2017 Summit also.


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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

The new rovers under Tata are way more reliable than times past. What about a CPO rover with warranty? For me it'd come down to which dealer was better - by me both Jeep and Land Rover dealers are abysmal BUT we have a great relationship with an awesome Land Rover salesman which is why I'm considering an LR4 :/
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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

I would suggest reading some of Doug DeMuro's columns on Jalopnik about his Range Rover experience:
My Range Rover’s CarMax Warranty Is Now Half Over And It's Saved Me More Than $6000

He did the extended warranty and I would say it is an absolute must for a car that has these kinds of issue and is this expensive to fix. The other thing to note is depreciation. A 2008 with around 50k miles is worth about 12k. Considering that it was a 100k 8 years ago, that is pretty substantial.
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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

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I would suggest reading some of Doug DeMuro's columns on Jalopnik about his Range Rover experience:

My Range Rover‚Äs CarMax Warranty Is Now Half Over And It's Saved Me More Than $6000



He did the extended warranty and I would say it is an absolute must for a car that has these kinds of issue and is this expensive to fix. The other thing to note is depreciation. A 2008 with around 50k miles is worth about 12k. Considering that it was a 100k 8 years ago, that is pretty substantial.

It always bothered me how much promotion he did for Carmax in those articles. The L322 rovers were definitely more problematic than the new ones but That whole thing didn't come across as completely organic. Highly doubt he'd give them THAT a much free press for no benefit to himself.
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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

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It always bothered me how much promotion he did for Carmax in those articles. The L322 rovers were definitely more problematic than the new ones but That whole thing didn't come across as completely organic. Highly doubt he'd give them THAT a much free press for no benefit to himself.
I don't know if that's the kind of press that carmax wants. From what I have heard they have had to significantly increase the cost of their warranties recently as Doug (and others) kind of started a thing with buying awesome (but unreliable) cars with their relatively cheap warranties and encouraging others via car sites to do the same. Then again, no press is bad press...

Anyway, my point was the number of issues he has had with his. As long as you know what you are getting into, it could be a fun/cool truck. But if you think it will be like owning a camry, then it may be a shocking experience.
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I don't know if that's the kind of press that carmax wants. From what I have heard they have had to significantly increase the cost of their warranties recently as Doug (and others) kind of started a thing with buying awesome (but unreliable) cars with their relatively cheap warranties and encouraging others via car sites to do the same. Then again, no press is bad press...



Anyway, my point was the number of issues he has had with his. As long as you know what you are getting into, it could be a fun/cool truck. But if you think it will be like owning a camry, then it may be a shocking experience.

Yeah I saw it as a positive for them as most non-factory warranties are generally not so good, but he proved that theirs was quite useful. Definitely not a Camry, but 2010 and on are far better reliability wise than the older ones. Hard to argue with the value you get from the GCs though. Think ultimately we will wind up with a GC
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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

First off,I will openly admit I am biased due to a very nasty buyback of a Landrover Disgraceful II,I acknowledge its over 12 years ago,but other than working thru the Dealership I was amazed there was NO direct # to Landrover North America,I KNOW things have changed drastically since then,due to lost sales,piss poor customer service etc,but some things haven't changed,fewer dealerships than Jeep,much higher cost on parts,oem and aftermarket,a premium price for a vehicle that I don't view as prestige,(that's where my biase kicks in),no better assembled than a Jeep,same luxuries but at a FAR higher cost.Now don't get me wrong,the Landrover/Rangerovers ARE beautiful to the eye,my wife's LOVED all the amenities,twin sunroofs,wonderful leather seating, superb 4x4 system,(don't know if anyone has been over the rocky hill at some of the Dealerships,surely makes your a$$*ole pucker up good n tight!)but reliability of electronic systems was and to an extent,remains questionable,as does fit and finish.Sure,Jeep has its issues too,but warrantys are less expensive,parts are way more plentiful,aftermarket an add on accesories are also more prevalent and less expensive to buy.NOT saying for a moment that you would have the same experience as I did,(a lemon,total lack of dealership support by Landrover North America,and a vehicle that spent nearly 10 months of our 13 month ownership at the dealership,and the icing on the cake,a completely unresponsive manufacturer),I sincerely hope you have a problem free ownership,but figure in cost to own,including initial cost of vehicle,cost of warranty,cost of insurance,gas mileage,aftermarket parts should you want to make your Range Rover more unique.Dollar for dollar the Jeep will be easier on your bank account.Again,before anyone damns me to hell for my observations,it is only my opinion,insurance cost me more,gas mileage wasn't as good,extended warranty was pricey and aftermarket and oem add ons were a lot more expensive.Needless to say the car was a lemon(for us),BUT the reason we bought it is because our Jaguar was such a reliable,elegant,smooth running vehicle,(still is,but only comes out to play a couple of days a month),yes it was higher insurance too.We thought a Landrover would give us problem free service.(when I worked for myself,we had more disposable income so tried some more luxury type vehicles,the Jaguar was and is a home run!).
I guess my very long winded reply is,sit and figure your initial outlay of $$$ then work out cost to own.Spend some time reading up on problems common to your particular vehicle so you have a VERY informed idea of what to anticipate.
I still think you will find the Jeep a better financial choice.but again,it IS your choice of vehicle.As I said at the beginning I AM biased.All 4 Jeeps I own '90 Wrangler with +200,000 miles,'08 Liberty Limited with under 50k,'11 JGC with 26k and our '15 JGC with 3k have been (other than the 8.4 screen needed to be replaced on our '15)great,that being said,I set the bar high on reliability in a vehicle,as they have been.Owning 5 vehicles total,my wife gets very irritated and wants at least 2 gone.Not gonna happen!
I sincerely(as I am sure everyone here does),wish you all good things on whatever you decide to buy.RANGE ROVERS are an incredibly good looking vehicles inside and out,on paper their equipment is superb and I hope you have issue free motoring.
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Re: Buying a used 2014 Range Rover Sport HSE V6 versus a new 2017 JGC Summit

I looked at the RR also and after comparison of costs, options, repairs and reliability, the Summit was an oerwhelming winner.
Also, just because a pre-owned is a 2014 or whatever, doesn't mean your warranty started in 2014. They have an in-service start date. If your 2014 was purchased early in 2013 then your 3 year is over in 2016.
Back to RR, they are great in appearance and comfort but everyone I know that has one knows their dealerships and mechanics too well.
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