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Old 12-04-2013, 03:55 PM
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Carwash Conundrum

Just got back from the carwash. I've been using the same carwash for years, and the guys who work there are top notch, and do a great job. Normally you drive up and get out before going into the tunnel, and they take care of everything until you get back in at the other end and drive off with a clean and dried off vehicle. Today they told me I had to stay with my vehicle through the whole process. The reason was that they had a '14 JGC exhibit some strange behavior the other day. The guy that pulled it into the tunnel put it in neutral, and before he got out the Jeep started to accelerate through the tunnel. He looked at the dash and shifter and they both indicated neutral. He pushed the start button to stop the engine, and it wouldn't shut off. This is evidently the way the Jeep is designed. I verified this myself. It has to be placed in park to shut it off. He said he did that and had to hit the horn to have the line shut down so vehicles behind this one wouldn't hit it. Like I said, I've been having my Jeep cleaned there since it was new, and so have several other JGC owners. This was the first and only time this has happened. The owner told me because of this, anyone with a JGC with the electronic shifter will have to stay with there vehicle. He also told me anyone with a Range Rover with electronic shifter must do the same thing because if you stop the engine in one of them while in neutral, the emergency brake engages.

Now I really don't want this thread to become a pro and con discussion of carwashes. But what I would like to know is if anyone else has had there JGC accelerate while it was in neutral. The owner of the carwash has been in touch with the local dealer, who is contacting Chrysler. I told him I would put this problem out to the very knowledgeable members of this forum, and pass along any feedback I got. Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-04-2013, 04:10 PM
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I wonder if placing it in transport mode would solve this issue. Just an uninformed thought.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:00 PM
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

definitely has never accelerated in neutral.

If you want the engine off while in neutral, hit the start button twice so its in ACC, then apply brake and shift to neutral.
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:18 PM
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

I did not have the problem of acceleration at my car wash yet. But, I noticed with WK2 w electronic shift, you must apply brakes to to shift from Neutral to Drive. My last SUV would shift directly without the brake interlock system coming into play. The guys at carwash have had to tell me repeatedly to not put brakes on, and there is even a sign that says "dont touch brakes" Another thing at car wash is that the WK2 does not track very well inside the wheel guide and once actually almost came out of the track. There was no damage to my wheels or tires thankfully. Is this because of the 20'' tires?
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Old 12-04-2013, 05:31 PM
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

You know, this is not the first Grand Cherokee and carwash related story I have heard. For a while one of the car washes here refused to service Grand Cherokees because they had one accelerate through the tunnel and kill one of their workers, this was an older model. It really happened, it was on the news. They service Grand Cherokees again now, but I notice that when I take the Jeep there they put the hazard flashers on and when the guys see it coming out of the tunnel they all stand on the grass. They don't do that when I take any other car there.

After that happened the local news had a story about Grand Cherokees and car washes and there were a lot of issues.

Simple Google search turned these up:

http://www.9news.com/news/article/32...rand-Cherokees

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"Waterway has experienced an unacceptable number of dangerous and costly accidents involving pre 2011 Jeep Cherokees and Grand Cherokees. At Waterway, employee and customer safety is our chief concern. Therefore we have made the decision to stop washing these vehicles."
Going back as far as 2006:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/08/c...-as-dangerous/

This is the story about my local carwash:

http://www.tbd.com/articles/2011/01/...ash-47615.html

VERY strange. It makes no sense, but there it is.
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

jacko15,what if you put the transfer case neutral.on the other hand i rather stay in the jeep.great way to CK for leaks!
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

Actually, this is the only car wash I know of that had patrons leave their vehicle while it went through the wash. I certainly don't mind going through with it.

SWO3ES, those are some freaky stories!
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Depress and hold down the stop/start button.
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

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definitely has never accelerated in neutral.

If you want the engine off while in neutral, hit the start button twice so its in ACC, then apply brake and shift to neutral.

That doesn't work, does it? I've tried to coast my Jeep down a small incline in the driveway just to move it out of the way, wash it, etc and I've been less-than-happy that i have to start it for 30 seconds to move it 10 feet.

I just went outside and tried it, but with the E-shifter it won't unlock even with the brake pressed.

Show me the way...please

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Old 12-04-2013, 09:19 PM
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

My car wash has never asked that.. EVER.. that's strange they must be confused with the one time a WJ owner got the peddle smashed and ran out the carwash...
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That doesn't work, does it? I've tried to coast my Jeep down a small incline in the driveway just to move it out of the way, wash it, etc and I've been less-than-happy that i have to start it for 30 seconds to move it 10 feet.

I just went outside and tried it, but with the E-shifter it won't unlock even with the brake pressed.

Show me the way...please

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I'll confirm in the morning, but my lexus worked like that, and a few push-button rentals I've had work like that too.
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Re: Carwash Conundrum

Would pushing down the start/stop button and holding it for few seconds shut down the vehicle? I remember reading something like that back when Toyotas were trying to drive on their own.

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