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Old 01-11-2014, 09:28 AM
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My wish list to add to my GC overland:

Hellcat, Hellcat, Hellcat.

Shifter, either copy the MB GL setup which works brilliantly, or put P R N D buttons on the steering wheel!

In any case copy the feature where if your vehicle is stationary and you press the engine off button, engine goes off and gear goes to parking by itself like in the Mercedes S class.

Another great feature to copy from S class, when standing in traffic light, a hard press on brake pedal locks the breaks and you can take your foot off, pressing the breaks hard again or just pressing accelerator releases brakes.
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Re: Changes for 2015?

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Electronic brake-force distribution
Optimizes stopping distances and control under all vehicle loading conditions by regulating braking pressure, front-to-rear.

Electronic parking brake (EPB) with Safe Hold
Console-lever electronic parking brake supplants conventional pull-handle/push-pedal system; can be activated while driving (pull up switch and hold); can be released automatically by engaging forward or reverse gears with driver buckled in and door closed; also features Safe Hold, which stops the vehicle using the motor on caliper (MOC) at each rear wheel if driver unlatches seat belt and opens door without placing vehicle in park.

Full-speed Forward Collision Warning-Plus
Radar and camera technology combine to determine if frontal impact appears imminent. If so, system pre-fills brakes, then transmits audible and visual warnings for driver to intervene. No response triggers brief brake application as tactile alert; if driver remains unresponsive and frontal collision risk remains, brakes are applied to slow vehicle before impact. System can bring vehicle to full stop if speed is reduced below 20 miles per hour.

LaneSense Departure Warning-Plus
Alerts and assists driver with corrective action; leverages electronic power steering (EPS) to deliver subtle steering-wheel input when system detects need for course correction.

ParkSense Parallel/Perpendicular Park Assist
Ultrasonic parking sensors on bumper guide driver into parking space. The system automatically controls steering-wheel angle, driver controls, gear position, brake, and accelerator. Parallel parking possible on either side of vehicle; for perpendicular parking, vehicle backs itself into space.

ParkSense front and rear park assist systems with stop and release
ln reverse, at low speeds, ultrasonic sensors detect stationary objects. If imminent collision is detected, system will provide a momentary, autonomous brake pulse, then release. Below 4.4 mph, system will bring vehicle to a stop before releasing.

--Milous

Wow what a great bunch of options for folks who are too stupid to be out on the roads in any vehicle. Just what we need more inattentive drivers on the roads. Its bad enough with folks talking on their phones and checking emails.

Come on if you cant park your vehicle you really shouldnt be out on the interstate driving at 70mph+.

Lets get rid of technology. No power brakes, no power steering, No traction control, no ABS, but lets go w/straight cut gears, no synchros and no automatic gearboxes. Its fun going up and down through a gearbox with no synchros. If you are really good you can do it w/o the clutch boys and girls.
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Wow what a great bunch of options for folks who are too stupid to be out on the roads in any vehicle. Just what we need more inattentive drivers on the roads. Its bad enough with folks talking on their phones and checking emails.

Come on if you cant park your vehicle you really shouldnt be out on the interstate driving at 70mph+.

Lets get rid of technology. No power brakes, no power steering, No traction control, no ABS, but lets go w/straight cut gears, no synchros and no automatic gearboxes. Its fun going up and down through a gearbox with no synchros. If you are really good you can do it w/o the clutch boys and girls.
Or you could go back to driving cars from the 60's and 70's because obviously that is where you belong.
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Electronic brake-force distribution Optimizes stopping distances and control under all vehicle loading conditions by regulating braking pressure, front-to-rear. Electronic parking brake (EPB) with Safe Hold Console-lever electronic parking brake supplants conventional pull-handle/push-pedal system; can be activated while driving (pull up switch and hold); can be released automatically by engaging forward or reverse gears with driver buckled in and door closed; also features Safe Hold, which stops the vehicle using the motor on caliper (MOC) at each rear wheel if driver unlatches seat belt and opens door without placing vehicle in park. Full-speed Forward Collision Warning-Plus Radar and camera technology combine to determine if frontal impact appears imminent. If so, system pre-fills brakes, then transmits audible and visual warnings for driver to intervene. No response triggers brief brake application as tactile alert; if driver remains unresponsive and frontal collision risk remains, brakes are applied to slow vehicle before impact. System can bring vehicle to full stop if speed is reduced below 20 miles per hour. LaneSense Departure Warning-Plus Alerts and assists driver with corrective action; leverages electronic power steering (EPS) to deliver subtle steering-wheel input when system detects need for course correction. ParkSense Parallel/Perpendicular Park Assist Ultrasonic parking sensors on bumper guide driver into parking space. The system automatically controls steering-wheel angle, driver controls, gear position, brake, and accelerator. Parallel parking possible on either side of vehicle; for perpendicular parking, vehicle backs itself into space. ParkSense front and rear park assist systems with stop and release ln reverse, at low speeds, ultrasonic sensors detect stationary objects. If imminent collision is detected, system will provide a momentary, autonomous brake pulse, then release. Below 4.4 mph, system will bring vehicle to a stop before releasing. --Milous
I can't wait to hear about all the accidents these systems will cause. All the times FCW caused my brakes to lock up for no reason, particularly the time FCW decided to come to an abrupt stop in the middle of the interstate with no one else around WHILE I was towing my 40' snowmobile trailer, which in turn caused it to jackknife and break the axle... And Chrysler couldn't fix it.

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Re: Changes for 2015?

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Wow what a great bunch of options for folks who are too stupid to be out on the roads in any vehicle. Just what we need more inattentive drivers on the roads. Its bad enough with folks talking on their phones and checking emails.

Come on if you cant park your vehicle you really shouldnt be out on the interstate driving at 70mph+.

Lets get rid of technology. No power brakes, no power steering, No traction control, no ABS, but lets go w/straight cut gears, no synchros and no automatic gearboxes. Its fun going up and down through a gearbox with no synchros. If you are really good you can do it w/o the clutch boys and girls.
So pretty much like this?

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Old 01-11-2014, 06:26 PM
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Wow what a great bunch of options for folks who are too stupid to be out on the roads in any vehicle. Just what we need more inattentive drivers on the roads. Its bad enough with folks talking on their phones and checking emails. Come on if you cant park your vehicle you really shouldnt be out on the interstates out driving at 70mph+. Lets get rid of technology. No power brakes, no power steering, No traction control, no ABS, but lets go w/straight cut gears, no synchros and no automatic gearboxes. Its fun going up and down through a gearbox with no synchros. If you are really good you can do it w/o the clutch boys and girls.

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Old 01-11-2014, 06:34 PM
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Re: Changes for 2015?

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Wow what a great bunch of options for folks who are too stupid to be out on the roads in any vehicle. Just what we need more inattentive drivers on the roads. Its bad enough with folks talking on their phones and checking emails.

Come on if you cant park your vehicle you really shouldnt be out on the interstate driving at 70mph+.

Lets get rid of technology. No power brakes, no power steering, No traction control, no ABS, but lets go w/straight cut gears, no synchros and no automatic gearboxes. Its fun going up and down through a gearbox with no synchros. If you are really good you can do it w/o the clutch boys and girls.


automatics will always be here! they out shift any driver.
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Old 01-11-2014, 07:20 PM
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Re: Changes for 2015?

What Milous posted is excellent and along the right track. You might think you are a superior driver never distracted, etc, etc but the fact is we are all distracted at times and anything that saves lives I am all for. So one person has reported that the FCW stopped the car for no reason. OK it happens, no one was hurt some stuff was broken. My experience has never been along this path. My system has never activated for no reason what so ever.
Systems are only as good as the people that build and test them.

Good news is that I don't ever think these items will be standard equipment for those that don't want them. What is the issue if that is the case?
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Electronic parking brake (EPB) with Safe Hold
Console-lever electronic parking brake supplants conventional pull-handle/push-pedal system; can be activated while driving (pull up switch and hold); can be released automatically by engaging forward or reverse gears with driver buckled in and door closed; also features Safe Hold, which stops the vehicle using the motor on caliper (MOC) at each rear wheel if driver unlatches seat belt and opens door without placing vehicle in park.


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Thanks for this info.
Can you tell me if EPB will be released on the MY15, as it is the only deal breaker for me not upgrading to a SRT.
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Thanks for this info.
Can you tell me if EPB will be released on the MY15, as it is the only deal breaker for me not upgrading to a SRT.

I like your sig "I want an SRT".

My sig should read "If your 2011 Bright Silver Metallic Overland wasn't a RHD I would want that alongside my 2012".
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Good news is that I don't ever think these items will be standard equipment for those that don't want them. What is the issue if that is the case?
Not so sure about that statement. Look at airbags, stability control, passenger presence sensors, tire pressure monitoring systems... all government-mandated safety devices for cars sold in the USA. Oddly enough, ABS is NOT government-mandated.

Then there's this (from "way back" in 2012):

Way beyond air bags: NTSB wants next generation safety devices on cars, trucks - CNN.com

I think Jeep may just be getting ahead of the power curve and possibly making all of this standard from '15 on...

... but there's scary prospects of where this is all headed:

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...tion-and-speed
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