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Old 01-13-2014, 06:03 PM
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I have never hit my leg or caught my pants leg on a parking brake pedal in all my years of driving. I have noticed that a lot of these posts are coming from somewhere other than the US. Maybe they do things differently over there. I always use my parking brake. Most of my vehicles have had a manual transmission so it's a necessity. I also haul the occasional vehicle and sometimes, depending on the situation, I like to apply light parking brake pressure. Will the electric button do that?
It is the position of this out of date stupid device on Right hand drive vehicles thats the issue for us.
One only has to see pictures of the LHD location and compare that to the RHD and it becomes obvious
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:48 PM
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It is the position of this out of date stupid device on Right hand drive vehicles thats the issue for us. One only has to see pictures of the LHD location and compare that to the RHD and it becomes obvious
Good point. On right hand drive vehicles it sticks out like the proverbials because of the transmission bump. While LH vehicles it's neatly tucked away against the side wall. I remember seeing the imported Explorers had the same issue aside from the fact that trucks/SUVs trend to have a larger bump due to transmission or transfer case. Tends to scratch me Tony Lamas up a bit, which ain't cool. :P
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Old 01-13-2014, 06:52 PM
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It is the position of this out of date stupid device on Right hand drive vehicles thats the issue for us. One only has to see pictures of the LHD location and compare that to the RHD and it becomes obvious
I understand now. There was a slight lack of information on both of our parts.
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Old 01-13-2014, 07:09 PM
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I don't think I would trust it in anything I've driven recently (electronic or mechanical) to hold the weight of the vehicle without the transmission on even a slight slope.
That's sort of the point of it...when I park, incline or not, once I stop I put it in neutral, apply the parking brake, let my foot off the real brake so the parking brake takes the weight of the vehicle then shift to park. That way there's no weight on the transmission. Parking brakes are designed this way. Even the manual says it should be applied before shifting to park.

Yes if you don't push the brake in far enough it won't hold the weight on an incline but I've never had a problem getting it to hold...just push a little harder.
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Old 01-14-2014, 09:17 AM
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Then go get a Mercedes Benz... I lime the shifter how it is and where it is. It isnt a new concept for design or location it is just electronic instead of mechanical.
The shifter on the '14 is a completely different design then it is on the '11. Mine has a "gate" type in the center of the console and the new one is mounted further aft, to the left of the console.

Btw..guess what the "MB CDI" in my signature stood for? Been there, done that. Didn't like the car, but the shifter was brilliant.
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Re: Changes for 2015?

So...

I'm almost to the point where I'll be ordering a new Overland.

The question is, when will any actual changes to the 2015 model be confirmed?!? I'd prefer to not place an order until I know what, if anything, will change on the 2015 model.

I once made the mistake of buying a 2005 Toyota 4Runner less than a month before the redesigned 2006 model where released. Missed out on things like Bluetooth, AUX Port, & other improvements.

I don't plan on making a similar mistake with the WK2.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:04 PM
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So... I'm almost to the point where I'll be ordering a new Overland. The question is, when will any actual changes to the 2015 model be confirmed?!? I'd prefer to not place an order until I know what, if anything, will change on the 2015 model. I once made the mistake of buying a 2005 Toyota 4Runner less than a month before the redesigned 2006 model where released. Missed out on things like Bluetooth, AUX Port, & other improvements. I don't plan on making a similar mistake with the WK2.
Aside from small option changes there won't be a major redesign until 2017ish. So the 2015 and 2016 models will be like the 2014's just like the 2012 and 2013 were just like the 2011 redesign. Or so history dictates.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:12 PM
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Re: Changes for 2015?

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So...

I'm almost to the point where I'll be ordering a new Overland.

The question is, when will any actual changes to the 2015 model be confirmed?!? I'd prefer to not place an order until I know what, if anything, will change on the 2015 model.

I once made the mistake of buying a 2005 Toyota 4Runner less than a month before the redesigned 2006 model where released. Missed out on things like Bluetooth, AUX Port, & other improvements.

I don't plan on making a similar mistake with the WK2.
You never know for sure they can keep introducing new things throughout the model year that they do not advertise as late availability. They quietly add the ACC with Stop Go 6 months after they began producing the 14s. The ones that role off the line at the beginning of a model year will not necessarily be the same ones that role off at the end of the model year. you just have to role the dice
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:21 PM
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So... I'm almost to the point where I'll be ordering a new Overland. The question is, when will any actual changes to the 2015 model be confirmed?!? I'd prefer to not place an order until I know what, if anything, will change on the 2015 model. I once made the mistake of buying a 2005 Toyota 4Runner less than a month before the redesigned 2006 model where released. Missed out on things like Bluetooth, AUX Port, & other improvements. I don't plan on making a similar mistake with the WK2.
The changes Milous posted aren't all confirmed for the 2015 JGC, but you can bet that most, if not all of them, will be on it.
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Re: Changes for 2015?

Whatever the changes are.... they are gonna have to be good enough to distract me from the new Z06/Z07.

Looks like I'll be selling my EVO, keeping my Overland and shopping for one these!
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Re: Changes for 2015?

This is my first post. I don't own a Jeep GC, I have test driven an Overland and Laredo - both diesel.

My wish list for 2015...

1) Change the foot brake to a "normal" hand brake which we are familiar with in Australia.

2) More exterior colours - some nice blue colours would be great.

3) LED lighting on the rear lights.

4) Option for a second fuel tank underneath the spare wheel.

5) Include SAT NAV on Laredo.

6) Relocate the CD player from the centre console to the dash.

7) Twin turbo diesel - I am probably dreaming here.
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Electronic brake-force distribution
Optimizes stopping distances and control under all vehicle loading conditions by regulating braking pressure, front-to-rear.
Sounds like an okay addition.

Electronic parking brake (EPB) with Safe Hold
Console-lever electronic parking brake supplants conventional pull-handle/push-pedal system; can be activated while driving (pull up switch and hold); can be released automatically by engaging forward or reverse gears with driver buckled in and door closed; also features Safe Hold, which stops the vehicle using the motor on caliper (MOC) at each rear wheel if driver unlatches seat belt and opens door without placing vehicle in park. This sounds like a horrible change IMHO. I have no problem with the current Parking Brake and can see any malfunction of this new electronic one causing potentially serious problems if it happens while driving.

Full-speed Forward Collision Warning-Plus
Radar and camera technology combine to determine if frontal impact appears imminent. If so, system pre-fills brakes, then transmits audible and visual warnings for driver to intervene. No response triggers brief brake application as tactile alert; if driver remains unresponsive and frontal collision risk remains, brakes are applied to slow vehicle before impact. System can bring vehicle to full stop if speed is reduced below 20 miles per hour. This one sounds okay if it is designed and operates correctly.

LaneSense Departure Warning-Plus
Alerts and assists driver with corrective action; leverages electronic power steering (EPS) to deliver subtle steering-wheel input when system detects need for course correction. Might be more trouble than it is worth. Will depend on how it detects lanes, curbs, & roads.

ParkSense Parallel/Perpendicular Park Assist
Ultrasonic parking sensors on bumper guide driver into parking space. The system automatically controls steering-wheel angle, driver controls, gear position, brake, and accelerator. Parallel parking possible on either side of vehicle; for perpendicular parking, vehicle backs itself into space. Great for the "parking challenged" folks out there but I'd never use it.

ParkSense front and rear park assist systems with stop and release
ln reverse, at low speeds, ultrasonic sensors detect stationary objects. If imminent collision is detected, system will provide a momentary, autonomous brake pulse, then release. Below 4.4 mph, system will bring vehicle to a stop before releasing. Sounds like a decent safety feature to aid folks who fail to be aware of their surroundings.

--Milous

Thanks for the information Milous.

Many of these could be seen as "keeping up with the Jones" kind of features. As long as the Driver has the ability to DISABLE some or all of these Electronic Nannies, I'd be okay with them. Otherwise, I'd pass on what might be systems that are too intrusive.
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