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Old 02-11-2014, 06:49 PM
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An installation problem is rather unlikely. I'm not sure who told him that but it's likely BS. If you've ever seen the assembly process the bolt torque for things like this is done by specialized tools that do it automatically. It's either torqued down to spec (usually all the bolts at once) or the bolts aren't installed at all. There isn't any half or part-way about it.

In addition, Improper driveshaft-to-flange bolt torque wouldn't cause a "driveshaft failure." If too tight, the bolts might fracture. If too loose, they might back out. Either case results in a driveshaft flailing around under the vehicle and causing far more damage than a replacement driveshaft alone would correct.
No, he is always right haven't you learned this???
The only way that it would have been faulty installation that caused it to fail is if the bolts were tightened so tight that it literally crushed the rzeppa joint, which would have had to be cruahed evenly otherwise it would have thrown off the balance and you would have known right away but since you drove 12k miles that is doubtful. It would also take multiple sets of bolts to crush it that much because they break before you even start to crush the metal on the joint.
Bottom line you are just using the union as a scapegoat when chrysler uses a supplier to make the driveshaft, thankfully it isn't my company.
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Old 02-11-2014, 07:06 PM
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No, he is always right haven't you learned this???

Bat Masterson is billed as a legend in his own time.

That's not the same as being a legend in your own mind.

Some don't recognize the difference.

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As for the driveshaft, nobody here knows for sure what happened nor why.

But, staying on topic, let's hope we have no failures of drive shafts in the 2015MY.





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An installation problem is rather unlikely. I'm not sure who told him that but it's likely BS. If you've ever seen the assembly process the bolt torque for things like this is done by specialized tools that do it automatically. It's either torqued down to spec (usually all the bolts at once) or the bolts aren't installed at all. There isn't any half or part-way about it.

In addition, Improper driveshaft-to-flange bolt torque wouldn't cause a "driveshaft failure." If too tight, the bolts might fracture. If too loose, they might back out. Either case results in a driveshaft flailing around under the vehicle and causing far more damage than a replacement driveshaft alone would correct.
I doubt anyone told him that. I think that's what he wants it be in his own mind because that would support his argument that its because it's a union person installing it. He clearly has no idea about the process just that it's union and that has to be the problem. I am not this big union supporter, but some people are so brainwashed with this anti union stuff that they can't even look at the facts. Why anyone with these opinions would even own a union made vehicle is beyond me.
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[QUOTE=tjyates08;974261]I wish for 2015 that as part of the advanced technology package that a Heads Up Display would be offered.

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Mmm, that electronic brake option will be a great addition... This way when folks inevitably experience the issue where their piece of crap shifter refuses to come out of DRIVE, and they can't shut their engine off either because of it, now they can't even set their E-brake and leave their WK2 idling all night long.

If it sounds like something I've experienced... You're right, and on two 2014s already.
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Re: Changes for 2015?

I was thinking about this as well. Everything is electronic except for the current E brake so if all else fails you can still engage the E brake. I don't like the idea of it moving to an electronic system and hopefully it won't end up on the 2015's.
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Re: Changes for 2015?

I think you will find the normal brakes are not electronic, but Hydrolic and are dual circuit, so extremely unlikely to fail.
The Park brake is call this for a reason, they are no longer "Emergency" brakes, as it is not required for this function any more.
There is nothing wrong with going with an electronic Park Brake as it reduces the need for a physical mechanism to operate, so will use up less room overall.
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I think you will find the normal brakes are not electronic, but Hydrolic and are dual circuit, so extremely unlikely to fail.
The Park brake is call this for a reason, they are no longer "Emergency" brakes, as it is not required for this function any more.
There is nothing wrong with going with an electronic Park Brake as it reduces the need for a physical mechanism to operate, so will use up less room overall.
Well bring it on then.
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I think you will find the normal brakes are not electronic, but Hydrolic and are dual circuit, so extremely unlikely to fail.
The Park brake is call this for a reason, they are no longer "Emergency" brakes, as it is not required for this function any more.
There is nothing wrong with going with an electronic Park Brake as it reduces the need for a physical mechanism to operate, so will use up less room overall.
I no big fan of electronic parking brakes. It removes cheap and easy to service mechanisms with complex and more difficult to service electronics. I am familiar with electronic rear brakes as used on newer German vehicles, such as Audis. You MUST have a diagnostic tool even to replace brake pads. You must command the calipers to open, then replace the pads, then enter the pad thickness into the electronic park brake module, then command the calipers to close and adapt. What was a 15 minute procedure, is now a long process.

So, on top of the expensive calipers with built-in motors and sensors, you also have a "Park Brake Control Module", a control lever/switch, more harnesses, etc. Yes, those parts do fail and they are not cheap.

Me, I like the handle between the seats for the parking (or "emergency") brake. It's simple, works great and is sometimes even fun.
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:49 AM
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If I had one wish for the 2015 model slap the Indigo Blue interior into a Limited.
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Has anyone heard if they're going to bring back flipper glass?

(I know the answer but I just want to stir the pot)
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Has anyone heard if they're going to bring back flipper glass?

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LOL You know, I have never used my flipper glass in either one of my Jeeps ( I had a 2010 before the 12) and didn't use it. I guess they think since they make the power lift gate available on the Laredo E and up no one needs ol flipper anymore.
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