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#1 ·
Hey Everyone,

I was wondering if we have any info yet on what changes will be coming with the 2015 models?

Thanks
Mashie
 
#444 ·
Put a bra on that Durango front end and you won't have to look at the ugly part. ;)

I bought a Mercury Mountaineer in 2000 because I liked the looks. I learned to regret that decision. So in 2008 I bought what I felt would really fit our needs best (Toyota Highlander) despite the fact that I didn't like its looks. It has been a very good vehicle and I have gotten over the appearance issue. Frankly, the GC's looks don't set me on fire... it's just ok... but I want it for what it can do.
 
#447 ·
No facelift. No price reduction.
 
#449 ·
If you want a third row seat that will fit a person over the age of 5 comfortably enough to ride for more than 20 minutes you should look at something with a longer wheelbase (Expedition, Tahoe, Suburban, Grand Wagoneer if it happens).

If they did put a third row in the GC it would be really really tight and leave almost zero cargo room.

I get you really want the GC but need the extra space but it sounds like it's only for 15 days a year and push comes to shove you take two cars which to haul your stuff (unless you got a roof carrier) you'd have to anyway.

Buy the Jeep and then make everyone fight to see who gets to ride with you on the trips. :slapfight:
 
#454 ·
I get you really want the GC but need the extra space but it sounds like it's only for 15 days a year and push comes to shove you take two cars which to haul your stuff (unless you got a roof carrier) you'd have to anyway.
I think you've hit the answer: Strap the extra people to a roof rack. You can use the sunroof to talk to them or see if they flew off when you went around that last curve.
 
#453 ·
CapecodJeep, as Milous mentioned (he's a Jeep insider...and he's OUR insider :D ), 2015 and 2016 will not see any striking changes since they just did a meaningful mid-life update with the MY2014. It will, however, be interesting to see what comes with the 2017 model that includes a complete platform refresh...but it will be awhile before even half-credible rumors start for that one.

I would only expect color options and some added electronic features to come into play over the next two model years, honestly. They are selling like hotcakes as it is (discussion about increasing production by adding another facility) so there is little incentive to make any more mid-course changes at this point.
 
#466 ·
Hello Jim_in_PA. Thank you for the following up. I am familiar with Milous, and his contribution to the Forum. Again, I was simply drawing attention to several internet articles. As we all know, if its on the internet, it must be true......:lol::fryingpan:

Seriously, I agree with you. Jeep's recent mid-life refresh will probably hold up for at least 1-2 additional model years. I suspect 2015 will bring updated technology, additional LEDs exterior lighting, new exterior and perhaps interior color changes. Perhaps, wheel design refresh. That's about it....IMO.

As I stated, my 2011 lease expires this year. So, I will be moving into a 2015 GC Overland/Hemi (my 6th GC). BTW, I test drove a 2014 diesel. Impressive, but honestly, I prefer the Hemi V8. Personal preference.
 
#455 · (Edited)
I have a half-credible rumor for the 2017.

It'll be all new and built at JNAP. :D

HC500000, where are you? :D
 
#456 · (Edited)
I for one hope FCA stays away from adding a 3rd row to the JGC either in it's current size or a stretched version like the Durango. I owned a 2010 Highlander and the 3rd row may have fit two small children without major discomfort but that's it. The 2010 Highlander and JGC are near each other in dimensions but the Highlander doesn't need to make room for the Jeeps suspension or a 6.4l hemi so it had an interior that felt more roomy but still the 3rd row was tiny so no way I see them fitting a 3rd row without stretching the JGC and I feel the JGC is big enough already (and weighs more then enough).
 
#471 ·
Hmmmm i remember seeing somewhere the screen may increase to 9.7. Not sure if that's on here or somewhere else. I'm not real sure about the "foot" activated liftgate hmm.. I want to guess the 12in screen. Although much bigger and they may as well slap in a led HDTV lol.
 
#479 ·
From WK2Jeeps.com on the 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee:

Order banks open - June 2014
Production startup - July 21, 2014
Sales launch - September 1, 2014
5th and next to last model year for the 4th generation Grand Cherokee
Laredo, Limited, Overland, Summit and SRT models continue
Same drivetrain as 2014 models
Minor changes
New: Active Noise Control System (Summit and SRT)
New: Acoustic windshield (Summit)
New: Iluminated Sill Plates (Summit)
(more info coming soon)
 
#480 ·
From WK2Jeeps.com for the 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee:

New: 360° camera system
New: Foot-activated tailgate

I like the 360° camera system a lot, and I guess the foot-actuated tailgate will be nice too.
 
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#496 ·
On the other hand, this would be detrimental to those who do some serious towing with their JGC. The mass is very helpful in controlling the larger loads, especially for stopping.
 
#499 · (Edited)
I agree with the "better in every way" for the 2017. I also think auto purchasing is evolving where the buying decision will be based on the electronics packages available, with the engine and body just being wrappers around the electronics. That means the 'electronics' includes ACC, lane adherence, front collision, etc.

That belief is the very reason I am in a quandary about buying an extended warranty for the JGC I have currently on order. Barring any real disappointments from the Fiat influence, I am fully expecting to want to trade/upgrade my incoming 2014 JGC for a 2017/2018.

We have a 2013 SHO with the Microsoft system. This is the top of the line for Ford in the Taurus. It is painful, but pretty to look at. Just to give you an idea, last week we got a 'low tire pressure warning' (the tire outline with the exclamation point in it.) Not too concerned, because of the cold weather, etc. However, there is no way to see individual tire pressures! Only the yellow dash symbol. Even my 1995 Corvette could tell individual tire pressures!

I am expecting much better from uConnect in the JGC.

We'll see......
 
#503 ·
I wonder when Chrysler will start building their own high torque capacity eight speed transmission (870RE or maybe 890RE?) instead of buying the 8HP70 from ZF? I would think that would be a huge cost saving measure.
I think that's been the plan from the beginning. They are just doing it one step at a time, which is a good thing. They will still have to pay licensing fees.
 
#504 ·
Regarding the new transmissions, you have to understand that Chrysler's plants are very near 100% capacity. They just bought a new transmission plant that will desperately be needed.

IMO, they sold way too much in the bankruptcy and was not expecting the industry to jump back like it has. All Chrysler really needed was some good vehicles, which they did not have previously. Soon, they will be able to build all of the transmissions they want. They have already been able to build many engines!

Weight loss, no comment, I don't have a clue right now.

Fiat influence? Yeah uh, you do realize that there was no merger, right? :D Chrysler and Fiat are still kinda free to do whatever they want.

See Renault and Nissan.
 
#505 ·
Fiat influence? Yeah uh, you do realize that there was no merger, right? :D Chrysler and Fiat are still kinda free to do whatever they want.

See Renault and Nissan.
What does "kinda free" mean? :) Is that like going to the white house carrying a gun?

I'll admit I haven't spent a lot of time (from my consumer position at the end of the food chain) watching the ownership musical chairs of Chrysler and GM. My current perceptions come from limited and periodic allusions to Fiat ownership here in the forums.

Is my perception not accurate?
 
#507 ·
I'm not real keen on the calls certain people have for the widespread use of aluminum structurally. Especially in an off-road capable vehicle and for anyone that might use it as such. Land Rover might get away with it because it's clientele will generally not be doing as much with the vehicles--they simply cost too much. It might be interesting to see how many of the newer RRs are on the market for off-road use 7-10 years from now and how they are holding up structurally.

Things to keep in mind about aluminum:

1) Cost. Much more expensive
2) Fatigue limit and life is lower
3) Galvanic corrosion issues with the use of any dissimilar metals. Much more pronounced with widespread use.

Ford is already testing the limits with their new F-150 design and there are quite a few in the industry who are expecting some real issues on a vehicle that is extensively "used" so to speak.

People need to remember that there isn't any "miracle" substance. Going to aluminum will have tradeoffs. For example, while an all-aluminum engine can be made to last 150k-200k miles, that is generally pushing an upper limit. And you better not overheat it. Iron blocks last longer. Are easier to rebuild. And many last longer than the average. Now, none of that matters to the manufacturer--they are done with you cost-wise when you get out of warranty. But it might matter to you as the end user if you plan to keep a vehicle. Tradeoffs...always tradeoffs.
 
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