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Old 11-27-2012, 09:47 PM
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No but I only had it for a short period with the warm weather its not been that hot where I live in a while. My husband says just throw a cheap towel under and it will melt to that lol.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:43 AM
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Re: Child Car Seats?

I've got 3 baby seats in the back of my GC Overland. I use old towels underneath "Little Car Baby Seat Grippers" (probably similar to the brand others here mention). Had it for 6 months now and took them out for a boys weekend away and was pleased to see no evidence of the baby seats being there. Previously I had a Jeep Commander limited with towels only under the baby seats and there were some indentations left behind.
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Re: Child Car Seats?

The current recommendation is that a child stays rear facing until 2. It is also infinitely safer to keep a child in a 5-point harness seat for as long as possible. I have a Britax Frontier 85 SICD that is good until 85 lbs.

Secondly, you must know the weight limit of the LATCH system in your vehicle. The rule is that if it's not clearly stated in plain english in your vehicle's manual, assume the total limit is 45 lbs.

For Chrysler products since 2010, the limit on the anchors is 65 lbs. That is inclusive of the child AND seat. My 44 lb. son is in a 20+ lb seat, so there's no using the LATCH system.

To touch on what someone mentioned earlier, a rear facing seat should NEVER brace against the seat back of the front seat. They are designed to bounce to absorb crash forces.

Seatbelt installation is not any less safe than the LATCH. It's just made for convenience's sake.

With any child restraint, the goal is to minimize movement of the base at the belt path down to 1" in either direction. Any more and it's not a correct installation.

I didn't read all the pages of responses, but I've seen my share of injured or potentially injured children from improperly installed seats (and most of them are). I am a certified Child Restraint System installer as well.
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure no parent on here is purposely "improperly installing their childs carseat" we're all doing the best we can.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure no parent on here is purposely "improperly installing their childs carseat" we're all doing the best we can.
X2 I straddled the car seat base and pulled with everything I had on the Tightening strap for the Latch System.

I found tilting the rear seat forward secures the base even further!
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Re: Child Car Seats?

I wasn't implying anyone did it intentionally. It's just a fact. Most of them are. Just remember - if the front seat is holding a rear facing child restraint in place and preventing it from bouncing, the child in it will absorb the crash energy that the seat was designed to take.
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Re: Child Car Seats?

Nothing is "infinitely" safer than a three point harness. The car seat industry would only have you believe that.

Your other points I do agree with for most.

But as for me, my 1 year old is going to face front just like her brother did at 1. Pointing a kid backwards is, to me, a form of slow torture. I read the data on safety, not the sales pitches, so dont lecture me please. Life is about weighing risks and benefit... I am buying the better side impact seat to mitigate some of the side impact risk, as that is higher in front facing.

I do have the frontier 85 sicd on order, how do you like that?
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Re: Child Car Seats?

We're parents. We make the decisions we believe to be best and safest for our children. I believe a 5 point harness is safer than a 3 point belt. "Infinitely" was used figuratively.

My son is 3.5 and 45 pounds. He's staying in the harness as long as I can keep him in it, even though he can be seated in a BPB when he turns 4 in six months. I've seen enough little ones unscathed in crashes that you'd think they "should" have been seriously injured because they were seated in restraints that were properly installed. Conversely, I've seen little ones get hurt in seemingly minor crashes because their restraint was installed to the parents' standard, not that of the industry.

I like the seat. I think the side airbag stuff is a sales pitch itself, to be honest. It makes the seat really large. You'll have to compress the side "airbag" to fold the split seat. If it offers any additional protection, it's worth the bucks, which is why I bought it. You can't put a price on the potential mitigation of injury to our children.
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Re: Child Car Seats?

Thanks. I just installed it last night. I agree with your points. The side airbags are basically plastic canisters of air! I do like the Britax Advocate sort of "staged" harness, looks like it has give built into it to decrease peak decel G's.

Another thing I do (which means we basically never put the seat down, is have a relatively secure barrier between cargo and passengers, because in a rollover, everything goes everywhere...

I totally agree that 5 point is better than 3 for several reasons, one being the kid can't get out! I have a 6 point with HANS in my car for track days and except for a rollover and cave-in, it sure seems it is safer!
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Another thing I do (which means we basically never put the seat down, is have a relatively secure barrier between cargo and passengers, because in a rollover, everything goes everywhere...

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I just re-installed my rollup cargo cover prior to a roadtrip for this very reason. I plan on leaving it installed.
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