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Old 01-05-2011, 09:31 AM
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Re: Close call in my garage

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Bit OT, but is that an NV Homes built home Cperez?
Negative, barho. Craftmark. Home is very well-built, but there are definitely a few builder-grade materials in dumb places.

We're having a new guest parking area and front walkway put in now to replace the original narrow walk that hugged the side of the house. Gotta have some nice curb appeal when I pull up in my new WK2 (just trying to keep things topical).
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:37 AM
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Sounds like a scene from final destination
We were just missing the young hottie who would catch the flying spring in her eye socket.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:42 AM
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Mine were also originals (~11 y.o. I figure).

Just returned from Home Depot where I got 2 new stainless steel open-eye bolts ($2.50 ea) and a set of new springs (2 in a box for $25). Also saw that you can get a set of standalone safety cables for $7.50.

Just my .02, MSCA, but if your door seems to be operating normally, I would consider getting a new set of springs, but only putting the safety cables on and keeping the new springs as replacements when one of the original ones fails (replace them as a set at that time). True, you'll have the system partially dismantled when you install the safety cables, and that might be a good time to replace springs, but why not get the remaining life out of the ones you have (since you will now be protected from catastrophic failure). When I told my old-timer h'ware clerk the age of the spring that broke, he seemed surprised that it hadn't lasted longer.

Sometimes my wife accuses me of over-engineering my fixes, but I think I'll use some kind of heavy gauge wire to lash the looped ends of the springs to the hooks they attach to, so that at the next failure I minimize the risk of that broken loop flying around. I will leave some play in the connection to allow free movement of the spring during open/close. Maybe I can find some old key rings and use them for that purpose. Hmmm.

You're probably right...if I had the cables installed I'd be safe from any catastrophic failure. But then again, I have no idea of the life expectancy of garage door springs. The garage gets used every day, so those springs have been stretch and relieved quite a few times over 15 years. I noticed in your pictures that the end of your spring is angled awkwardly from the tension. Look at the way these springs look in comparison:
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:50 AM
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I noticed in your pictures that the end of your spring is angled awkwardly from the tension. Look at the way these springs look in comparison:
That second one in particular looks like a much better design than my original or even the one with the perpendicular loop. That first one still involves bent metal which must introduce some degree of fatigue. The insertion of that clip to serve as the loop looks like it provides max strength and efficiency. I like.

I'm sure I got builder's grade springs in the original install.
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Re: Close call in my garage

Wow glad your Jeep was ok!!

Seems as if a lot of people have had this happen. I have never had a spring break in all my years, nor have any of our neighbors. I guess I should feel lucky.....now let me find some wood to knock on, LOL
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Re: Close call in my garage

EPILOGUE: This evening I supervised my 14 y.o. son as he (almost) singlehandedly upgraded the two eyehooks to stainless steel and installed a new set of springs on that door. He needed a hand lifting and bracing the door once the springs had been detached, and I had to re-attach the new springs to the eyehooks, but otherwise he did a nice job.

Since the new springs were a bit stiffer, the only adjustment I had to make was to slightly increase the downward force on the opener motor. Planning on replacing the springs on my side tomorrow evening. I should be able to sit back and drink a beer as he tackles that side.
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Re: Close call in my garage

I have always been extremely careful around garage doors. My wife and daughter are not allowed anywhere near the open garage door and must always exit through the adjoining exit door.

The reason: My best friend was killed by a failed spring and subsequent crashing down of a 2 bay garage door while walking his bike out. He was on his way to get milk for my birthday party later that evening. 27 years ago last September on my 13th birthday.

and no I am not joking....


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I have always been extremely careful around garage doors.
That's an awful story and you have my belated condolences.
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I have always been extremely careful around garage doors. My wife and daughter are not allowed anywhere near the open garage door and must always exit through the adjoining exit door.

The reason: My best friend was killed by a failed spring and subsequent crashing down of a 2 bay garage door while walking his bike out. He was on his way to get milk for my birthday party later that evening. 27 years ago last September on my 13th birthday.

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Wow, that's terrible. The weird thing is that an open door can be dangerous if it crashes down on you, but at the same time a closed door is probably even more dangerous because that's when the springs are stretched under tension.
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Re: Close call in my garage

Thank you Cperez, its been many years and something that I had not thought about for a long long time so this post really struck a chord.

As mentioned, either closed or open the kind of sprung tension on these mechanisms should always be respected and all safety devices should be routinely checked.

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Re: Close call in my garage

I've been reading up on garage door springs and I've come to the conclusion that the types of springs that I have (same as CPerez) aren't nearly as safe as the torsion spring type. Torsion springs are the springs that are fastened to the wall directly above the garage door. There are usually two springs that are on a metal shaft. If that kind of spring breaks, they are contained on the metal shaft and there won't be any damage to anyone or anything in the garage.

I might convert my garage door to a torsion spring system...
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Re: Close call in my garage

I never liked the way they designed the two, single door garages...(looks like it from the pics) they always seem to fault... glad everything is safe and no one was in the garage when it happened
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