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Old 03-21-2012, 02:59 PM
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Re: day time running lights

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If "Canada" is listed in the OP's signature, my apologies. Signatures are not visible to my when accessing this forum via Tapatalk on my phone
To Mot250: Sorry. I didn't realize that.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:05 PM
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Re: day time running lights

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Yes my '12 Laredo has no DRLs. Does seem odd that some do and some don't. I recall someing from about 1964 saying that the Greyhound Buss Company had reduced accidents to busses but turning their headlights on during the day.

Have noticed some really dumb omissions like the lack of a TPM readout. Suspect both might be returned with a flash, maybe Jeep should offer that as an option.

Despite the lack of manuals, I am slowly building a picture of the WK2. Nice thing about reverse engineering from a device without doumentation is that there are no controls over dissemination. Is how a number of software companies made their fortunes.
You having a laredo explains why you don't have them. Only the LImited and Overland models have DRL here in the U.S.

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Re: day time running lights

Thought I said that. On my Reattae you just change an option code from the dash to turn them on and off automagically. Too bad Chrysler-Jeep-Daimler-FIAT doesn't do the same. Seems like an opportunity here.
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:35 PM
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On the Laredo, another thread on this forum talked about switching the country code to Canada for a US Laredo and that turned on the DRLs. I'm not sure if that was done via an EVIC function from the steering wheel or if a dealer service tech accessed it through a scan tool.
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If Greyhound's data can be trusted, it is still based on 1964 era vehicles and traffic/road conditions. And it was related to freakin' busses that drive way different than average cars (generally slower, more stop and go, more pulling into and out of traffic). At that time there were no cars with DRLs and many states in the US actually had laws against private vehicles running headlights during the daytime. Doing so was deemed a rude, agressive and offensive driving technique as in "hey, notice me and get out of my way as I'm more important than the rest of you drivers."

That said, 1964 Greyhound busses would have been some of the few vehicles on the road with headlights so any "perceived" benefit would be due to the rest of the traffic not having headlights on. With the increase of DRL use over the last 10 years, there is now a sea of headlights on during the day so the benefits are muted (how does one car stand out with its DRLs among all of the other DRL cars) and make it harder to notice pedestrians and other vehicles that do not have lights on.

Personally, I don't see why I need to easily see a car 2 miles behind me changing lanes in the middle of a clear afternoon with its headlights on when I'm just trying to take notice to the cars in my immediate vicinity.

So call me an old fart if you like.
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Re: day time running lights

On a bright sunny day, I agree but spent five years close to that point in the US that gets the least amount of sunshine in a year. On a dark overcast day up in the slow corner it can make a real difference.

Didn't think the greyhound study had anything to do with being slow and ungainly, more that some people would not see even a bus.

Now with headlights that automagically turn on when it is dark, maybe that is enough but was just commenting that it is odd that some Jeeps are "haves" and others are "havenots".

Do know that the engineers and managers were charged with removing content from the Larerdo to justify a price drop in 12. Better they picked DRLs than the dual zone a/c and didn't require any tooling charges.
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And back in the 60's more cars were lighter colors: sky blue, light green, yellow, orange. Now they are black, dark grey, brown making DRL's even more necessary.
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Re: day time running lights

I put amber lights (flicker a tiny bit) on my motorcycle and I really need the lights
for daytime riding to be seen, makes a big difference, more important for the motorcycle of course (SUV's always win)...

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Re: day time running lights

Wouldn't help with the Fiero, whole car is below the window line. Just measured and sill is at 49" so low cars, recumbrants, children, wheelchairs, & height impaired pedestians are invisible.
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Re: day time running lights

I'm wondering if the OP knew that he had to have the vehicle in drive to make the DRL's come on.
I would be SHOCKED to find any new vehicle (let alone a Jeep) sold in Canada that didn't have DL's as standard equipment.
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And back in the 60's more cars were lighter colors: sky blue, light green, yellow, orange. Now they are black, dark grey, brown making DRL's even more necessary.
It's the light to medium colors that are harder to see at dawn/dusk and overcast foggy conditions. He dark colors actually offer a better contrast in those conditions.
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