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Re: DC metro area group buy

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Trade in offer for my 2012 VW GLI was awful. Koons was offering $13,000 but I was able to get $18,500 from another dealer.
I have a 2011 BMW 328Xi with 40K miles. Autotrader instant trade is quoting 17.5K, hoping to get close to 20K.
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I have a 2011 BMW 328Xi with 40K miles. Autotrader instant trade is quoting 17.5K, hoping to get close to 20K.
I would temper your expectations on getting anything above autotrader which is the "black book" quote. The group Buy pricing is so aggressive that there is just not much room in the deal for them to pad your trade. Could you go get $5 k more for your trade from another dealer? Sure, but you'll then pay $5 k more for the new car. I'm not saying you can't try to maximize your trade, just don't expect them to be able to get to what you think it's worth.

Using KBB, autotrader, Nada, and Edmunds, I had a really good idea for what was reasonable for my trade. I went to another dealer that was more local to me and they offered me right around the average of all those sources (which for me was right around the 'good' value on KBB). I negotiated my trade value over the phone because 1) I didn't set my expectations too high and 2) I had a written quote from another dealer so Koons knew it had been looked at. When I showed up at Koons they assessed and confirmed my trade in and trade value.

As many have said, the group buy pricing (even with the lower trade in amount) was simply the best deal on a vehicle I've ever gotten. The experience at Koons (dealing with Nader in one email, two phone calls, and for about 2 hours total at the dealer) was the smoothest car buying experience I've ever had.

Good luck. I hope you get what you want, I'm just trying to let you know what my experience was.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:32 AM
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Re: DC metro area group buy

Rather than trading my 2005 BMW M3 to Koons, I ended up selling it to Carmax in Sterling, VA for what I believed was a very fair price. Koons' offer was a joke, but it was fine with me since I already had a quote from Carmax.
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Re: DC metro area group buy

Thank you, brady420 and mxmumtuna. I am planning to follow the same plan. I don't want to miss out on credit in sales tax when I do a trade.

I am still confused on picking a Limited vs Overland. Should I go with:

Limited
- Lux ii package
- Tech Package
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Overland with Tech package.

I understand difference is roughly 2K. The question I have is will I get same interior with Lux package on Limited.
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Re: DC metro area group buy

I had a Cherokee with 131K miles - average value online was ~ 3300. (I know, not the same scale as your BMW, but...).

I put it on CraigsList (works here in CO), and sold it in 6 days for 5700 to the first prospective buyer who looked at it. Cash.

Just my experience.
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Just heard from Nader. Its bad news, they can't sell it to Massachusetts due to some difficulties in registration. The only way they can do is if you pay cash.

Lets hope I get a decent deal locally

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Re: DC metro area group buy

You could still use it as a negotiation point with a local dealer.
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Re: DC metro area group buy

Thank you everyone! Advise has been very helpful. I just booked the Overland. Can't want for Monday to take delivery.

I am looking accessorize any guidance/tips greatly appreciated!

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Re: DC metro area group buy

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Just heard from Nader. Its bad news, they can't sell it to Massachusetts due to some difficulties in registration. The only way they can do is if you pay cash.

Lets hope I get a decent deal locally

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I don't understand your post...."they can't sell it to Massachusetts"???
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I don't understand your post...."they can't sell it to Massachusetts"???
Hi Dan JGC, Yes! I know i was bummed to hear that. Knoos can only sell if we pay cash, something to do with MA not accepting temp tags and registration delays resulting Knoos not getting payment from financial institution. Nader mentioned that it took them six months to get funds last time they sold to MA.
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Re: DC metro area group buy

According to Milous order banks for the 2014 close on April 18. If you've been lurking or just recently stumbled onto this thread and are ready to pull the trigger on what specifically you want, take a look at post #1518 for the GB details. After the 18th you'll have to go for something off the lot.
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