Go Back   Jeep Garage - Jeep Forum > Jeep Platform Discussion > Grand Cherokee - WK2 -

Join Jeep Garage Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
  #1681  
Old 05-02-2014, 02:41 PM
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.6L WK2
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Virginia
Posts: 8
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 130
pcas10 has a reputation beyond reputepcas10 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DC metro area group buy

Quote:
Originally Posted by sacarmic View Post
So no one has had any issues with Nader/Koonz? The price is fantastic compared to what I'm seeing in my area (Indiana). The difference is more than enough to pay me to fly out to get it and a LOT left over. But I wanted to make sure because the price from the outside seems too good to be true.

Thanks,
Scott
Hi Scott,

The price is definitely good. I was in touch with Nader today and have agreed to purchase a new 2014 GC Altitude. We have placed an order through Chrysler, however, are not 100% positive it will go through, although Nader thinks we shouldn't have a problem. The price I was quoted OTD was significantly better than any other dealer in the area.

Invoice (Less 7%) + $499 Processing Fee + Tax + Registration

Very simple process. I am glad I stumbled upon this thread earlier this week.

Pat
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to pcas10 For This Useful Post:
  #1682  
Old 05-02-2014, 03:16 PM
Dan JGC's Avatar
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,847
Thanks: 1
Thanked 47 Times in 42 Posts
Rep Power: 3852
Dan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DC metro area group buy

Quote:
Originally Posted by sacarmic View Post
So no one has had any issues with Nader/Koonz? The price is fantastic compared to what I'm seeing in my area (Indiana). The difference is more than enough to pay me to fly out to get it and a LOT left over. But I wanted to make sure because the price from the outside seems too good to be true.

Thanks,
Scott
Nope - not too good to be true. I was very happy with my experience at Koons and with Nader. See my review earlier in this thread. Couldn't really ask for more as it was simple and Nader made sure my GC was all ready to go out front before I arrived.

The only concern is in VA they have a front license plate so by default they install the front bracket (such as on the lot vehicles) and they can NOT 100% guarantee that an ordered vehicle might get the front bracket installed during vehicle prep although Nader will try his best be vehicle deliveries happen throughout the day seven days a week. In Indiana, there is no front license plate --- so that may or may not be a concern for you. Even with two small holes, you can patch it or find plugs, but of course nice to not have to deal with that. I personally FedEx'ed Nader a few copies of a "Do Not Install Front License Plate Bracket" sign to tape to the front bumper as it was coming off the truck....I'm not 100% sure if Nader found that funny, anal, or a bit scary! LOL LOL LOL Regardless, it worked!
__________________

__________________
||||||| 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4x4 V8 in Bright White Clear Coat exterior with Grand Canyon Jeep Brown interior. |||||||
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dan JGC For This Useful Post:
  #1683  
Old 05-02-2014, 09:26 PM
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: New York
Posts: 49
Thanks: 8
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 182
Sydney is on a distinguished road
Re: DC metro area group buy

I received my VON today for an order I placed with Nader just yesterday. He's been great so far, and my price quote was exactly as outlined by others in the Group buy.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1684  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:11 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 141
Jrunner01 is on a distinguished road
Smile Re: DC metro area group buy

Hey Guys...

I posted in another thread about my 2014 JGC Overland 4x4, Eco Diesel, Adv Tech, ORAII, Engine Blk Heater order at a dealer in CT who is giving me 1% under invoice with what I think is a higher trade value (2k higher) than most local dealers on my trade in vehicle.

I am trying to do the following now...

1. See if my deal isn't that bad. I am considering that if I got the deal from Koons at 6% NET under invoice Id get aprx 3100.00 off invoice vs the aprx 517.00 off invoice with only 1%. However I probably would not get the 2k higher in trade value at Koons, as others said they are particularly lower than most since the are giving a screaming deal on the new Jeep and there just isn't any more room for them to play. So the difference between 6% and 1% under invoice is aprx 2500.00 additional savings. So if I take the 2k out of that for the lower trade at koons I am looking at a net savings of 500.00. Probably not worth it to travel to DC for this deal assuming I can do #2 below.

2. If any of my logic or math is wrong above in #1 and it still is a considerable better deal at Koons, then could I get out of my dealer order with 1k deposit? Its been stuck in JS status for several weeks now so its not delivered yet. I think that obviously would be wrong of me and show Im not a man of my word, which would be hard to digest in my own mind and then with the dealer in CT. I suspect I'd loose my 1k deposit so that would probably also make the switch to Koons not worth it either.

So is my logic right in #1 and what do you think about #2?

I am not interested in selling my trade at any of those local carmax type places as I want the process as easy as possible with less running around between entities. Plus last time I tried that approach with a previous car purchase at another dealer, carmax wasn't any better than the trade price at the dealer.

Thanks for any input you guys can provide!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1685  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:27 PM
mxmumtuna's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ashburn, VA
Posts: 25
Thanks: 5
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 183
mxmumtuna is on a distinguished road
Re: DC metro area group buy

The fundamental issue is that it's two transactions being lumped into one at your expense.

Facts:
1) You're getting a bad (or at least not good) deal on the new car. This is evidenced by the Koons deal.
2) You're getting less for the old car than you could sell it on your own (otherwise the dealer wouldn't buy it from you).

So, buy the new car for the best deal you can. Sell your old car for the most money you can (this will not be to a dealer).

Unfortunately this is all probably moot because you have a pending order, and your ability to get out of the order will depend on any contract language you've agreed to.
__________________
2014 Summit | EcoDiesel | Deep Auburn Pearl/GC Brown
Reply With Quote
  #1686  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:35 PM
Jim_in_PA's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2012 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: SE PA (central Bucks County)
Posts: 1,446
Thanks: 232
Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts
Rep Power: 3387
Jim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: DC metro area group buy

An add to mxmu~'s comments is that you have to factor in any sales tax incentives you might have for the state where you will be registering the vehicle. In PA, for example, the trade-in value comes off the cost of the new vehicle before sales tax is calculated. If you have a trade worth, say...$15K...that's $900 of sales tax savings that has to be considered in the trade versus sell privately decision. So if the old vehicle can be sold for more than the calculated tax savings from a trade, then it's worth considering, although the timing might be tricky if the money from the old vehicle is needed to complete the deal for an affordable payment. Timing is everything...
__________________
2012 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit - Winter Chill with New Saddle interior. 5.7L HEMI V8



Day-job...Telecom Technical Sales
Avocations...Woodworking, Equestrian, Food
Reply With Quote
  #1687  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:42 PM
Dan JGC's Avatar
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,847
Thanks: 1
Thanked 47 Times in 42 Posts
Rep Power: 3852
Dan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond reputeDan JGC has a reputation beyond repute
Re: DC metro area group buy

Jrunner01 ---

Why not sell your old one yourself on AutoTrader? That way you can have the best of both worlds - buy at Koons, and get more via AutoTrader for your old vehicle. On net (after factoring in sales tax savings doing a trade-in, costs to list, etc.) I got about $2600 more via AutoTrader than Koons trade-in price and $1600 more than the best trade-in price at a local dealership if I had bought local instead. Mine sold to the first person that came....which is the case in all but one vehicle I have sold on AutoTrader.
__________________
||||||| 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4x4 V8 in Bright White Clear Coat exterior with Grand Canyon Jeep Brown interior. |||||||
Reply With Quote
  #1688  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:51 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 141
Jrunner01 is on a distinguished road
Re: DC metro area group buy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim_in_PA View Post
An add to mxmu~'s comments is that you have to factor in any sales tax incentives you might have for the state where you will be registering the vehicle. In PA, for example, the trade-in value comes off the cost of the new vehicle before sales tax is calculated. If you have a trade worth, say...$15K...that's $900 of sales tax savings that has to be considered in the trade versus sell privately decision. So if the old vehicle can be sold for more than the calculated tax savings from a trade, then it's worth considering, although the timing might be tricky if the money from the old vehicle is needed to complete the deal for an affordable payment. Timing is everything...
That is how it works in CT. The trade price comes off the top selling price before calculating the sales tax. So I believe my calculations are as follows:

51333 (includes 1% under invoice + 75.00 fee) * .0635 CT Sales Tax = 3259 in tax
51333 - 21000 trade = 30333 * .0635 CT Sales Tax = 1926 in tax
3259 - 1926 = 1333 savings in tax by trading in to dealer.
Selling privately according to KBB = about 22500 for my vehicle

So 22500 selling privately - 21000 trading in = 1500 more for my vehicle but at the cost of paying 1333 more in tax for new vehicle = only about 200 more in my pocket.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1689  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:54 PM
Jim_in_PA's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2012 5.7L WK2
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: SE PA (central Bucks County)
Posts: 1,446
Thanks: 232
Thanked 48 Times in 37 Posts
Rep Power: 3387
Jim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond reputeJim_in_PA has a reputation beyond repute
Garage
Re: DC metro area group buy

Jrunner01, that would be too little for me to eschew the "convenience" of just trading it, personally...which I think is your same thought. Selling privately, even to the first person who comes along, still entails a bit of work to do the deal...and sometimes a little risk these days with seeing it through. For a couple grand...yea, I'd do it, but not for a few hundred bucks.

I actually did try to sell my previous vehicle, but it was taking too long and taking too much time. And it was in mint condition. So I traded it for less than I would have liked. I'll likely start earlier next time, however, risking the need for a rental if I decide to order rather than buy off the lot or through a dealer trade.
__________________
2012 Grand Cherokee Overland Summit - Winter Chill with New Saddle interior. 5.7L HEMI V8



Day-job...Telecom Technical Sales
Avocations...Woodworking, Equestrian, Food
Reply With Quote
  #1690  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:55 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 11
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 141
Jrunner01 is on a distinguished road
Re: DC metro area group buy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan JGC View Post
Jrunner01 ---

Why not sell your old one yourself on AutoTrader? That way you can have the best of both worlds - buy at Koons, and get more via AutoTrader for your old vehicle. On net (after factoring in sales tax savings doing a trade-in, costs to list, etc.) I got about $2600 more via AutoTrader than Koons trade-in price and $1600 more than the best trade-in price at a local dealership if I had bought local instead. Mine sold to the first person that came....which is the case in all but one vehicle I have sold on AutoTrader.
I would consider it had I known about the group buy deal in DC before making a deal at the dealership with my affiliate pricing of only 1% under invoice. See #2 in my orig post above.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #1691  
Old 05-06-2014, 12:59 PM
mxmumtuna's Avatar
Premium Member
My Jeep: 2014 3.0L WK2
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Ashburn, VA
Posts: 25
Thanks: 5
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 183
mxmumtuna is on a distinguished road
Re: DC metro area group buy

So really, you need to see what options you have regarding canceling your order. The rest is all just for naught if you're going to have to give up the $1k deposit.
__________________
2014 Summit | EcoDiesel | Deep Auburn Pearl/GC Brown
Reply With Quote
  #1692  
Old 05-09-2014, 01:02 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: wi
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
acaflying is on a distinguished road
Re: DC metro area group buy

bump
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Possible Group Buy Jordan's Jeep The Steel Armadillo 12 09-20-2012 08:56 PM
Possible Group Buy? FlyFlip420 Interior/Exterior/Visual 5 11-23-2011 09:38 PM
First 5 Group Buy! Diboblo LXHarness 27 06-22-2011 04:56 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 - JeepGarage.Org
The Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners Community