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Might be able to get some leverage amongst dealers. I can talk to someone at Koons at let him know that we potentially have at least 5 buyers with a 2% discount from another dealer and see if they would be interested in matching or increasing that. No promises though since my contact still has no knowledge of the 14s being available.

I'll see if I can get an email out to him later this evening.
I'll join in if we can get to 5%. 2014 Overland CRD
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I'm going by the dealer around 2PM today to review the build that he worked up. He is a little higher than what I configured from Milous's numbers. I'll discuss the group purchase and see what he says. Obviously, they will have to extend this offer for a few months while some of you wait for CRD and LUXII. Maybe like the previous post mentioned, a deposit would entice them. Would you guys be willing to put a $500 deposit down until you can order CRD, etc.?
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I could do that but I wouldn't to go beyond $500. I've ordered cars before and have either put $0 down or it was a good faith deposit meaning I gave them a check but they didn't cash it until I actually signed the papers to buy. BTW, my order would be a CRD overland
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I could do that but I wouldn't to go beyond $500. I've ordered cars before and have either put $0 down or it was a good faith deposit meaning I gave them a check but they didn't cash it until I actually signed the papers to buy. BTW, my order would be a CRD overland
Same for me; but only >5% would make it worth for me. Overland CRD.
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I'll join in if we can get to 5%. 2014 Overland CRD
I would be too unless I can get something going locally. Still talking to my dealer down here.
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I'm going by the dealer around 2PM today to review the build that he worked up. He is a little higher than what I configured from Milous's numbers. I'll discuss the group purchase and see what he says. Obviously, they will have to extend this offer for a few months while some of you wait for CRD and LUXII. Maybe like the previous post mentioned, a deposit would entice them. Would you guys be willing to put a $500 deposit down until you can order CRD, etc.?
Any idea on why the numbers are different from what Milous reported? I thought invoice numbers were set regardless of region or dealer? To the other point, I'd be fine putting down a small good faith amount or deposit.
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Any idea on why the numbers are different from what Milous reported? I thought invoice numbers were set regardless of region or dealer? To the other point, I'd be fine putting down a small good faith amount or deposit.
I'm curious about pricing as well. I'll post after my visit.
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Re: DC metro area group buy

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Any idea on why the numbers are different from what Milous reported? I thought invoice numbers were set regardless of region or dealer? To the other point, I'd be fine putting down a small good faith amount or deposit.
Hi all. Been lurking for a while since I'm also in the market but wanted to wait for the '14s to start showing up. When I saw this group created, I started to follow some of the conversation. I'm looking to replace my aging (but still going) '02 GC.

Let me also add that, at one time, I used to be a salesperson for some of the local Jeep area dealers. I haven't been in the business for about 12 years and am not associated with any local dealer. So, some of the following info may be outdated.

While it's been a while since I've been on that side of the desk, I don't believe that some of the basics have changed about what "invoice price" really is.

With that in mind, and as I'm sure has been described in a bunch of other posts here and elsewhere, there are some basic points to consider/remember:
  • The prices listed on the first page of the '14 ordering thread only apply towards actual options and base vehicle price.
  • Actual dealer invoices include add ons from the manufacturer (like the cost for the gallons of gas that the vehicle gets filled with when it leaves the factory/storage depot).
  • It also includes add ons for the region or zone that a dealer belongs to. These are usualy lumped into or often atttributed to Zone Advertising and/or dealer participation fees.
  • Each geographical zone or area has a slightly different fee schedule that gets added to the bottom line since it takes into condition local factors and structures based on what dealers commonly participate in or apply for. Therefore, dealers in the Washington Metro area might have a different average line item than, say, dealers in the Tidewater or Richmond area.
  • Lastly, when dealing with % or $ under invoice negotiations, you're going after making the dealer give up part or all of their "holdback" amount. This, as of last check for Jeep, was 3% of the total MSRP (I'm not really sure if "total" is meant to include the destination charge in that figure). When I was selling Jeeps, the actual holdback amount was detailed as an un-numbered line item towards the bottom of the actual invoice and labeled as HBXXXXXX (where X = the total dollar HB amount without decimal)
Given the above, you should expect that, when viewing an actual invoice, the total invoice price will be higher than the numbers posted for just the options and base vehicle price simply because there are add-ons that are not normally published because they differ with geographical areas.

I addition to that, the expectation that you could get 5% below invoice would need to be tempered with the fact that there's only so much room the dealer is likely to give up based on the 3% of total MSRP holdback - especially on an expected hot new ticket like the '14 GC.
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I'd been in for a good faith deposit. Not sure I'd want to put out $500 without something in writing to show they will uphold the deal until the crds can be ordered. What dealer are you working with?

I also spoke with Koons today and they said they could probably work to 3% if we have 5 people and I think we might be able to work that higher if we get people to commit. He also would probably want to see something in writing that said the other dealer offered 2%. Would this be possible? Their ordering system is also open (not sure what models are a available) but no pricing info apparently. I'll repost once be gets back with pricing and more details.
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I'd been in for a good faith deposit. Not sure I'd want to put out $500 without something in writing to show they will uphold the deal until the crds can be ordered. What dealer are you working with?

I also spoke with Koons today and they said they could probably work to 3% if we have 5 people and I think we might be able to work that higher if we get people to commit. He also would probably want to see something in writing that said the other dealer offered 2%. Would this be possible? Their ordering system is also open (not sure what models are a available) but no pricing info apparently. I'll repost once be gets back with pricing and more details.
Good deal. Whatever you do, stay away from Lustine though.

That said, I feel kinda bad - looks like a number of people are going for the Overland and I'm the cheap guy going for another loaded Laredo haha. I have a Laredo E group with ORA I, security and convenience, moonroof, uconnect and towing.
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I don't think I want an overland. Too much bling. I'm looking for all the features but I still want to drive onto construction sites and not look like a tool.

Eyeing a loaded Limited CRD
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3% would probably get me up there. 4% would be even better. It's a 4 hour drive. I'd probably have to fly or take the bus up so there are those costs to consider. I guess I could look into a one way car rental and if NCStreamer and I go up together it'd be cheaper... But more is better. Deposit isn't ideal for me but I'd do it to secure a better deal.

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