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Re: Dealer says no one wants off road package

I ordered my 2011 Laredo the first day ORA II was available for it. It is a Jeep thing for me. I have driven mine numerous times utilizing the ORA II and low range 4wd. I am not interested in upgrading to a Limited, Overland, etc, in order to get the ORA II in the future. I think ORA II should be availabe in all Hemi or Diesel WK2 models.
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Old 08-31-2014, 03:56 PM
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Re: Dealer says no one wants off road package

I just came back from the dealer. Left my 2012 and ordered a 2015 silver overland with the V8 and ORII.
Now need to wait and wait and wait.......
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:34 PM
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Re: Dealer says no one wants off road package

I would say that 20" wheels are not "stupid"...they are just not your preference, Baalic. Many of us like them. Some do not. And that's ok...both 18" and 20" are available (and even 17" in the base Laredo) so everyone has a choice.
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I would say that 20" wheels are not "stupid"...they are just not your preference, Baalic. Many of us like them. Some do not. And that's ok...both 18" and 20" are available (and even 17" in the base Laredo) so everyone has a choice.

To add to that, there are actually some pretty good off road tires that will work with 20" rims. And a 275/50 sidewall is enough rubber to flex and go ultra low air pressure.
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:30 PM
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To add to that, there are actually some pretty good off road tires that will work with 20" rims. And a 275/50 sidewall is enough rubber to flex and go ultra low air pressure.

Let's remember the hay days not too long ago where 15, 16, 17 inch wheels were common. No one had 18's. Also, 20's (or dubs) were what rappers rolled on. Then, 18's became mainstream and tire manufactures followed. Now we see 20's becoming more mainstream and soon there will be no issue to find a off road tire using that wheel size.

As for the OP's topic. I also believe the dealers are only ordering what they know will sell the most. Most people are not going to order the ORA2 option.


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I took my overland off road a few times.
And the reason that in buying another one is simple.
While 99.9% of the time I use 1% of its capability, on the 0.1% when I will need it! I know it is there and will take me back home.
And anyone that did any moderate off roading knows, that some times you get stuck, or the guy in front of you just ruined the worst part of a trail. And the difference between you staying there for the night or going home is some vehicle capabilities and some driver skills / or brute force.
Which is why the overland with factory off road is my car. I also added a winch to it, but it was only used once to up right a flipped Suzuki.
And although the factory off road tires are crap, everything else on the jeep worked flawlessly so far!
I think MaxGroup hit the nail on the head. We all WANT the capability to be available when we need it, even if is rarely required. Same goes for the 18" wheels. They allow more options and still drive great on the highway.
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Re: Dealer says no one wants off road package

Speaking of options, for those that off road do most of you use dedicated tires or do you generally go off road and then possibly take a long trip somewhere on the same tires. Reason I ask is I have a limited with the 20s and initially was going to upgrade to a 275/55 AT and use that for everything, but I'm wondering if your more likely to do something to the tire while off-roading and then risk a flat if taken on a long highway trip. It almost seems I might be better off getting a set of 18s and then swamping them when I'm hitting the road for a long trip.
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Re: Dealer says no one wants off road package

I think a person could easily find a decent set of tires that are good for the highway and up to moderate offroading. Swapping tires for one use or the other is a PITA.
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Re: Dealer says no one wants off road package

Thanks, my main concern was just playing in the mud, hills, beach etc and then having to take the GC on a long trip and risk a flat? As opposed to have a second sit of tires/rims and use those to 'play' in.
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Re: Dealer says no one wants off road package

If you plan on spending a fair amount of time in the mud, on the hills or beach then maybe a set of 18's isn't such a bad idea. I missed you stating you're running 20's. You'd probably get better traction and handling with a taller sidewall along with a better choice of tires with 18's. Do what you think fits your needs the best.

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Dealer says no one wants off road package

I know a number of people who run two sets of rims and tyres. Mainly because it avoids having to compromise offroad vs on road. You can have good off road traction and tough sidewalls on one set, and good wet weather traction and low road noise with the other. Apart from the cost of the rims, the long term costs are the same or lower. I only run one set - BFGoodrich A/T's, having thrown away the OEMs when they were half worn. The BFGs are not a bad compromise, but as they've worn the low speed road noise has increased, and I now wish I'd chosen to run a second set.
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It's because most people (including myself) are not going to take their $45,000+ Overland off road.

I've yet to see a 2014 Overland without the 20" wheels.
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