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Old 02-04-2015, 12:14 AM
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

This morning had the same damn issue.
Wife left 10 min prior to my attempt with a 2010 smth Acura MDX with crap tires that prob won't pass inspection this year. Indeed she left the driveway going forward, I had to back out.

I only moved 10 ft and got stuck, moved forward a bit then back again and stuck again and the ABS , 4wd needs service and the traction control light up. Same as the last time, traction only on rear right. Pam Pam! I was furious !

Started shoveling, way less snow this time so in 30 min I tried moving again and I managed to drag it back to the garage. Shoveled the rest of the driveway to get rid of ALL the snow and decided to risk my ass and drive the car like this to the dealership.
In the meantime I tried starting and stopping the car 5--6 time ,drove it back and fw in the driveway hoping
the errors will go away. But nothing. Then I decided to leave, didn't feel like towing it again.

Guess what? The second I was out of my driveway and into the main rd all the lights ( abs, traction control and 4wd service message) went off.
Car was back to normal !! WTF !!
Drove it to the dealership....and scheduled to drop it tomm. Everybody there had no clue. I have no clue and nobody else seems to have the issue unless we're talking about sand and we're not !
As a side note this time I didn't even manage to get into 4lo , started with offrd 2 in snow mode. Also this time I had 0 snow around the brake calipers or inside the wheel.

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Old 02-04-2015, 12:30 AM
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

I suppose this might come off as rude, it's not meant to. Have you considered buying a snowblower and then using it before driving on your driveway? That would solve the issue. Although, it would be nice to know what exactly is happening to your Jeep.
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Old 02-04-2015, 12:36 AM
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

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Hmmm... this is what the owner's manual says about snow mode:

Snow Tuning set for additional stability in inclement weather. Use on and off road on loose traction surfaces such as snow. When in Snow mode (depending on certain operating conditions), the transmission may use second gear (rather than first gear) during launches, to minimize wheel slippage. If equipped with air suspension, the level will change to Normal Ride Height (NRH) if the transfer case is in high range. The level will change to Off-Road 1 if the transfer case is in Low range.

Obviously, one can't achieve highway speed in low range. But I don't get the impression that it should still drop to aero when in snow mode based on what the manual states. To me, dropping to aero kind of defeats the purpose of being in snow mode.
Mine drops to aero mode when in snow mode when I reach 66 mph or whatever it is. I have a 2012.
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:07 AM
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

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This morning had the same damn issue.
Wife left 10 min prior to my attempt with a 2010 smth Acura MDX with crap tires that prob won't pass inspection this year. Indeed she left the driveway going forward, I had to back out.

I only moved 10 ft and got stuck, moved forward a bit then back again and stuck again and the ABS , 4wd needs service and the traction control light up. Same as the last time, traction only on rear right. Pam Pam! I was furious !

Started shoveling, way less snow this time so in 30 min I tried moving again and I managed to drag it back to the garage. Shoveled the rest of the driveway to get rid of ALL the snow and decided to risk my ass and drive the car like this to the dealership.
In the meantime I tried starting and stopping the car 5--6 time ,drove it back and fw in the driveway hoping
the errors will go away. But nothing. Then I decided to leave, didn't feel like towing it again.

Guess what? The second I was out of my driveway and into the main rd all the lights ( abs, traction control and 4wd service message) went off.
Car was back to normal !! WTF !!
Drove it to the dealership....and scheduled to drop it tomm. Everybody there had no clue. I have no clue and nobody else seems to have the issue unless we're talking about sand and we're not !
As a side note this time I didn't even manage to get into 4lo , started with offrd 2 in snow mode. Also this time I had 0 snow around the brake calipers or inside the wheel.

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Dial in Snow, select Low Range, raise your OR11, put it in Drive and select second gear manually with the paddles. Then have a gentle go. I'm nowhere near snow, but from what I understand about the vehicle this will give you a far better chance of success.

Note that in general across vehicles, warnings can often be brought on by overuse / overheating of traction control components.

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Re: Driveway-rated ?

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Dial in Snow, select Low Range, raise your OR11, put it in Drive and select second gear manually with the paddles. Then have a gentle go. I'm nowhere near snow, but from what I understand about the vehicle this will give you a far better chance of success.

Note that in general across vehicles, warnings can often be brought on by overuse / overheating of traction control components.

Cheers,
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Yes, try this. Note that selecting Snow mode will lower the car's QL, so you do need to override it to get it to ORII. Once you get on the road and over approx. 20mph sustained, QL will override you and lower to ORI (and then lower if you get up to higher speeds, at which numbers I don't recall)

BTW, has your wife been watching Gaslight? I've seen coming attractions for it on one of the movie channels. She may have gotten some ideas.
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Old 02-04-2015, 07:24 AM
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

Another day and the driveway has been plowed. Sort of. Like everyone else reporting here, SNOW mode effectively lowers the car to NRH so the less aggravating way is to put it first in SNOW then raise to ORA-1/2. Dialing in 4-LOW does not have an effect on the ride height in SNOW mode, in other words it doesn't matter when you engage it.

But engaging 4-LOW is definitely the way, at least for me, to come out of the yard and take that first turn into the alley without spinning my tires. It does make sense because it locks the center diff and simulates front and rear diff locks using EBDL (brakes) and really takes away wheel spin, frustration and gives full driver control. In this regard, I am putting EBDL above Subaru's fully mechanical LSD transmission.

And in the grand scheme of things, having previously off-roaded in sand/rock and I guess now in snow, I think Jeep's and Range Rover's TERRAIN CONTROL dial is a gimmick. Yeah, I can tell that the Traction Control / Stability Control is less intrusive in SNOW mode compared to NORMAL but I am not so sure we needed that many calibrations (MUD, SNOW, SAND, ROCK). I think a SPORT mode (existing), a FULL TC/SC mode (existing) and a DYNAMIC TERRAIN mode (mud, snow, sand, rock) and the 4-LOW mode (existing) would have served the car just fine. But marketing of gadgetry sells cars.
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Old 02-04-2015, 07:51 AM
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

Kinda sounds like your front axle is not engaging !
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

When the snows that deep your probably better off thinking the opposite. Maybe an SRT with snows is the way to go. I'm sure some of you have seen in this video.

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Re: Driveway-rated ?

Depends a lot on the snow. Most tires grab best on fresh powder snow like that alley. Traction is worst on packed snow / frozen snow or thin fresh snow covering ice or packed snow.
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Depends a lot on the snow. Most tires grab best on fresh powder snow like that alley. Traction is worst on packed snow / frozen snow or thin fresh snow covering ice or packed snow.
Oh yeah, I totally agree. That's why you can't really compare one situation to the next with all these videos of people driving thru deep snow. When I was driving around the other day on L.I. we had new stone with a ice base and I ws sliding thru every stop sign and was only going around 25-30. I have the stock Forteras so not sure if real snows or AT tires would have made a difference.
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I suppose this might come off as rude, it's not meant to. Have you considered buying a snowblower and then using it before driving on your driveway? That would solve the issue. Although, it would be nice to know what exactly is happening to your Jeep.

I don't get upset that easy and yeah I am considering a snowblower :P but that's not the problem.
The car is definitely screwed up if an acura with crappy tires made it out and mine didn't.
And it's not even about getting stuck or use the right combination of terrain setting and ride hight. It's about the fact the abs light turns on, about the fact that I can't turn off traction control ( the button on the panel is dead) and that the 4wd errors out and I only have traction on one wheel.
What if it get stuck in the middle of nowhere ? I wouldn't have a snowblower there and I can't use the old trusty method of digging your car out put some salt or sand and just get out. I wouldn't be able with only one wheel spinning and errors everywhere.
I still don't know what triggers this crap or what's the trick to make it go away...
Yesterday like I said in the prev post I went back and forth maybe 5--6 times in my driveway hoping that error will go away when the wheels are spinning and nothing .
It only went away the second I was on the street...and street wasn't dry or anything so there wasn't a huge traction difference.
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Re: Driveway-rated ?

I agree something not woking right.i made it up my drive last year un-plowed,pushing snow.drive is 1/4 ml. long and navi tells me there is 400 ft. change of elevation from bottom to top.over a foot i used auto in ist gear turned off t/c and air ride all the way up.with t/c on i can't keep speed up.
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