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Re: Drove a 2014 Toyota Highlander today, my thoughts vs the WK2

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Luxury......6.4 hemi...8 speed zf......qd2....3 rows...wow. it's gonna be a beast.
Or if you don't want to wait - several of my daughter's friends have turned their mommy vans in on durangos - they all really love them..... Common purchase seems to be limited w/awd and six...
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Re: Drove a 2014 Toyota Highlander today, my thoughts vs the WK2

The great on-road ride comfort of the Highlander was a primary reason we chose an '08. That, and the tow rating of 5000/500. I would rate the ride comfort as superior to the Jeep's (well, it was superior before 160K miles on the suspension!), but it feels distinctly more carlike than the GC. The GC has a heavy feel to it like a truck, and that's no surprise considering the curb weight difference.

Up until last May our HL only had the following surprise problems: an air bag cable in the steering column had to be replaced, and the driver door check strap broke twice (weak design there IMO). But since May 2013 I've spent $3000 fixing 7 fluid leaks. Now I'm ready to get something more off-road-worthy, with more power and tow capability.

There isn't much out there to match the JCG in the combination off-road prowess, ride comfort, and engine choices.
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Old 03-17-2014, 02:42 PM
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I would rate the ride comfort as superior to the Jeep's
I would say yes to that around town, but not on the highway. The Jeep feels a little tricky, you get some of that side to side thrashing over say, train tracks in the Jeep you don't in the Highlander, but on a highway the Jeep really, really shines.
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I would say yes to that around town, but not on the highway. The Jeep feels a little tricky, you get some of that side to side thrashing over say, train tracks in the Jeep you don't in the Highlander, but on a highway the Jeep really, really shines.
I tend to agree. The air suspension especially can induce a bit of jiggle and thrashing at times at slower speeds -- feeling a bit "soft" on occasion. But on the highway this thing is a cruiser.
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Re: Drove a 2014 Toyota Highlander today, my thoughts vs the WK2

The current generation Honda Odyssey is what my mom got for her canine hauler. She has a pair of wire crates in the back and one seat in the second row which gives tons of room on the driver's side second row for extra stuff.

We considered a T&C, but with the experience my aunt has had with them, we didn't really want to go there. She uses it as a doggiewagon as well and ended up replacing it every four or five years at about 80k. Usually they developed some sort of engine or tranny problem by that point. We were interested in something that would go 10+ years relatively trouble free.

That left Honda, Toyota and Nissan. Nissan was out because the seats didn't fold flat, and the styling at the time was not her cup of tea. The interior of the Toyota seemed cheap and it didn't have an independent rear suspension; in my opinion, there's no reason on-road vehicles shouldn't have an IRS these days. The interior of the Honda was not outstanding, but better than the Toyota. Seemed to feel more solid and well made than the Toyota. Plus, we had some serious doubts about Toyota's commitment to quality engineering; this was when they were having problems with unexpected acceleration and denying there was a problem.

Went with a 2012 Odyssey EX-L. We were looking for a deal on a 2011 (buying in October) but couldn't find one in the color she wanted. Happy with the purchase, has only been in for scheduled maintenance and one minor recall.

The only experience I've had with a Highlander was a friend of mine's who had a 2005 V6 2WD. He drove it for almost 200k, and by that point the interior was absolutely shot but it still ran OK. I didn't like the transmission; it could never hold a gear on a mountain grade. Always would shift 5-4-3-4-5 with the gas in the same position. It was even worse with cruise. He replaced it with a 2011 Ford Escape XLT 4WD.
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I would say yes to that around town, but not on the highway. The Jeep feels a little tricky, you get some of that side to side thrashing over say, train tracks in the Jeep you don't in the Highlander, but on a highway the Jeep really, really shines.

I don't see the Highlander as being a better ride in either scenario. But we can all agree to disagree. But geez, the GC on smooth pavement (esp at highway speeds) is almost too smooth LOL
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Re: Drove a 2014 Toyota Highlander today, my thoughts vs the WK2

I would just sell a few more houses in the right zip codes in MD ie Potomac and Bethesda and go 2015 Range Rover Autobiography. No sense going with second or third best. nothing from Toyota/Lexus, BMW, Porsche, or Mercedes even comes close both offroad and and on road ability. Best sound system of any vehicle out there. Grand Wagoneer needs a more modern V8 just to compete with down range models V6 supercharged models. GM's 6.2l in 2015 Tahoe is far superior engine to the current Chrysler V8 and that includes the SRT8. Come you can be Montgomery County's top producer as long as the economy doesnt go down the toilet.

I have two dog crates in my GC which needs a good cleaning and vacuuming with all the mud and fur. Flat floors with seats folded are the top selling point for dog folks. Mud blends in better with the tan interior. Black doesnt hide mud or dog fur.
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The interior of the Toyota seemed cheap and it didn't have an independent rear suspension; in my opinion, there's no reason on-road vehicles shouldn't have an IRS these days. The interior of the Honda was not outstanding, but better than the Toyota. Seemed to feel more solid and well made than the Toyota.
The interior of the Sienna is terrible, hopefully the new generation Sienna will have interior quality improvements similar to what we see in the Highlander.

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I would just sell a few more houses in the right zip codes in MD ie Potomac and Bethesda and go 2015 Range Rover Autobiography. No sense going with second or third best.
Sure, may as well go whole hog huh? LOL. I do love the new Range Rover, something about them that just screams class, plus all the capability and space.

One vehicle I would consider is a new Range Rover Sport...light on the options lol. BUT, they're impossible to get around here, big waiting lists everywhere.

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don't see the Highlander as being a better ride in either scenario.
Its degrees of good, lets just put it this way. The only reason I give the Highlander the nod for around town is the JGC's tendency to trash you side to side over things like train tracks, or a speed bump hit at an angle. That comes from the beefier suspension setup and much more rigid body/frame (a characteristic you also find in BOF trucks) I think and is a side effect of the GC's additional capability over the Highlander. The Highlander is a relatively flexible car chassis and thus doesn't do that.
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Its degrees of good, lets just put it this way. The only reason I give the Highlander the nod for around town is the JGC's tendency to trash you side to side over things like train tracks, or a speed bump hit at an angle. That comes from the beefier suspension setup and much more rigid body/frame (a characteristic you also find in BOF trucks) I think and is a side effect of the GC's additional capability over the Highlander. The Highlander is a relatively flexible car chassis and thus doesn't do that.[/QUOTE]


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Grand Wagoneer needs a more modern V8 just to compete with down range models V6 supercharged models. GM's 6.2l in 2015 Tahoe is far superior engine to the current Chrysler V8 and that includes the SRT8.
If only GM would update the rest of the vehicle instead of playing catch up. The engine was updated sure, but how about the transmission? how about the electronics? They have priced themselves out of most peoples price range with their new Tahoe, Suburban, etc. They provide no advantage over their competition. Chrysler has Uconnect (no matter how much you may hate it) they have the 8 speed transmission, they are class leading in a lot of categories, gm is just playing follow the leader.
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The current generation Honda Odyssey is what my mom got for her canine hauler. She has a pair of wire crates in the back and one seat in the second row which gives tons of room on the driver's side second row for extra stuff. We considered a T&C, but with the experience my aunt has had with them, we didn't really want to go there. She uses it as a doggiewagon as well and ended up replacing it every four or five years at about 80k. Usually they developed some sort of engine or tranny problem by that point. We were interested in something that would go 10+ years relatively trouble free.
The new T&C now has the same 3.6 pentastar as the jeep and uses a newer 6spd. I don't think you'll have those problems anymore.
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Re: Drove a 2014 Toyota Highlander today, my thoughts vs the WK2

I would never step on a Toyota dealership because of that annoying and corny lady on their TV commercials... not funny at all.

However, I do like the Highlander and Tundra. Thanks for the fair review.
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