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Re: Drove a 2014 Toyota Highlander today, my thoughts vs the WK2

I've owned a 2006 Highlander and a 2009 Highlander Hybrid. I had to replace the factory tires on both vehicles at 20,000 miles. I had problems with stuck brake calipers on each requiring brake jobs at around 40,000 miles. The leather seats in both vehicles were wearing poorly. Neither would make it up my snow covered private road if it was anything more than a little slick (the traction control would just stop the vehicle and it could not be disabled). What really stuck in my craw was the dealer wanted $70 to reset the computer with the new TPMS codes every time I switched to/from snow tires. According to the dealer, you had to buy a Lexus if you wanted the "upgraded" computer that would hold up to 8 TPMS codes.
I've owned a 2011 GC Overland Hemi and recently upgraded to a 2014 GC Overland CRD. I put 45,000 miles on the 2011 and my only gripe was the lousy gas milage. I have 10,000 miles on the 2014 and my only gripe is the poor Sirius satellite reception. Both made/make it up my private road easily in all conditions. The fit and finish of both is light years ahead of both my old Highlanders.

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Re: Drove a 2014 Toyota Highlander today, my thoughts vs the WK2

That's the previous Highlander...the new one is much improved.

It's like saying someone's issues with a WK are somehow applicable to the worth of a WK2. The difference is that distinct.
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1. Have you driven a new RRS? Or even the previous RRS? 2. Have you driven the NEW X5...the X5 with the electric power steering? The previous X5 was quite agile, but the new one is a very different vehicle. Much heavier, more bloated. The previous RRS is much more engaging and fun to drive than the NEW X5, I personally think it was compared to the previous one as well. I have not driven a new RRS, because they are so hard to come by but the reviews are all excellent. I find the car MUCH more appealing than an X5.
I have driven the previous but not the new. Wouldn't even consider the new until at least a full year. RR are not known for their reliability. I can't see the new model being flawless. My other neighbor has one though. The neighbor that got the last year model agrees with me about not getting the new one. I also think that the last year looks better. As far as getting a new one, no problem here. I guess that's the plus for living outside NYC.
I have had the X5 for a loaner for about a week. I loved it. Yes the steering is not as good as the previous year, but after driving the jeep for 10 months I didn't notice it. Once I got back into my '11 3 series I realized how heavy it's steering was and how light the other two are. If the X5 is in sport mode, the steering is heavier and more precise. Regular mode is not bad, but the Econ mode is awful. I also used to have a '06 5 series before the 3. After a 3 hour or longer drive you are exhausted. I'll take the lighter steering.
One other thing. The third row in the RRS is a joke. I wouldn't consider it as an option. The X5 isn't much better, but the new one does give a little more room.
Like I said. Land Rover has always been plagued by reliability issues. I don't see a new model, with a new chassis, and a new engine to not have some major issues. After 3 BMWs, I'll take an X5 any day. For the money I would stick with a jeep or the highlander. And if it wasn't for the lousy touch screen system, the MDX. If I was a narcissist, the I would overlook all reliability issues and cost and just go buy a RRS so I could show off to the neighbors. All though around here you just blend in with the crowd.
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If I was a narcissist, the I would overlook all reliability issues and cost and just go buy a RRS so I could show off to the neighbors.



I got a laugh out of that line. Good stuff.
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My other neighbor has one though. The neighbor that got the last year model agrees with me about not getting the new one.
Of course he does, he has the last years model lol.

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I also think that the last year looks better.
I did at first too, but after spending some time with the vehicle in person I've come around on the new styling.

I have a good friend who is a die hard BMW enthusiast, she's had like 5 of them, all 3 series coupes/convertibles and an 07 X5. She drove both extensively, and ordered a new X5 only because it was much quicker to get than a new RRS, and cheaper overall. She said she preferred the RRS. For her to say that means a lot...

As for availability, I live in Washington, DC. It's not like I'm out in the sticks, this is one of the largest car markets in the country. You have to order, and there's a waiting list for the RRS, nationwide. It's getting better and will continue to, but there for a while people were selling them for a premium on ebay.

As for reliability, I've heard mixed things. I know several people with the previous RRS, so,e have no problems, some have lots. Some have some. Kinda like the Jeep Grand Cherokee
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If I was a narcissist, the I would overlook all reliability issues and cost and just go buy a RRS so I could show off to the neighbors. I got a laugh out of that line. Good stuff.
It's just that there are so many RRs and spots around here. Every reality star has one. Every real houswife, Kardashian etc. I love the looks of the RRS, but I didn't want to deal with that or the lack of reliability. I remember on Top Gear US when the Sport had the sunroof pouring in water and the air suspension got stuck with the ass in the air.
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Of course he does, he has the last years model lol. I did at first too, but after spending some time with the vehicle in person I've come around on the new styling. I have a good friend who is a die hard BMW enthusiast, she's had like 5 of them, all 3 series coupes/convertibles and an 07 X5. She drove both extensively, and ordered a new X5 only because it was much quicker to get than a new RRS, and cheaper overall. She said she preferred the RRS. For her to say that means a lot... As for availability, I live in Washington, DC. It's not like I'm out in the sticks, this is one of the largest car markets in the country. You have to order, and there's a waiting list for the RRS, nationwide. It's getting better and will continue to, but there for a while people were selling them for a premium on ebay. As for reliability, I've heard mixed things. I know several people with the previous RRS, so,e have no problems, some have lots. Some have some. Kinda like the Jeep Grand Cherokee
He just got it about a month ago, and I know he looked at both. I'm sure he got a good deal on it as well. I don't think the money was an issue for him. He said he had wanted one for years, so I think it was the combo of styling and first model risks.
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Of course he does, he has the last years model lol. I did at first too, but after spending some time with the vehicle in person I've come around on the new styling. I have a good friend who is a die hard BMW enthusiast, she's had like 5 of them, all 3 series coupes/convertibles and an 07 X5. She drove both extensively, and ordered a new X5 only because it was much quicker to get than a new RRS, and cheaper overall. She said she preferred the RRS. For her to say that means a lot... As for availability, I live in Washington, DC. It's not like I'm out in the sticks, this is one of the largest car markets in the country. You have to order, and there's a waiting list for the RRS, nationwide. It's getting better and will continue to, but there for a while people were selling them for a premium on ebay. As for reliability, I've heard mixed things. I know several people with the previous RRS, so,e have no problems, some have lots. Some have some. Kinda like the Jeep Grand Cherokee
I'm in the DC area as well. LR Alexandria is a scam; they are marking them up anywhere from $10,000-$40,000 and putting on $5,000-$25,000 of "dealer extras" (side steps, lo-jack, etc.). Go to Mike Blackburn at Rosenthal Tyson's, so far I have had a great experience with him. Rosenthal Chantilly will probably be good as well. Both Rosenthal dealers are selling at MSRP.

Also, all three dealers I mentioned have some inventory, so you can test drive.
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Since we are talking about 3 rows, and price has been thrown out the window, what about the Mercedes GL? I think it's better than the RR and is roomier as well. Price shouldn't be any worse. That would be my pick if I could afford either if the two.
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Since we are talking about 3 rows, and price has been thrown out the window, what about the Mercedes GL? I think it's better than the RR and is roomier as well. Price shouldn't be any worse. That would be my pick if I could afford either if the two.
My friend has a GL - very nice vehicle, lots of room, tows pretty well too and can be had in diesel if so desired.
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Also, all three dealers I mentioned have some inventory, so you can test drive.
I'll have to go take one for a spin...we spoke to a guy for a long while from Rosenthal Tysons at the car show...I forget his name although Mike Blackburn sounds familiar...

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Since we are talking about 3 rows, and price has been thrown out the window, what about the Mercedes GL? I think it's better than the RR and is roomier as well. Price shouldn't be any worse. That would be my pick if I could afford either if the two.
I can promise you price has NOT been thrown out the window! LOL All this talk about X5s and RRSs and such is just conversational...I'm not planning on spending more than mid $50k.

I have always liked the GL very much. For family hauling I would agree, better than the RRS, but for looks, fun to own and drive I still give the nod to the RRS.

I'd buy a GL in an instant but they get expensive real fast. Optioned well, $80k easy.
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The new tahoes and yukons have 3rd row and are off road capable....too bad those things are going for 60-70k and more.

Which is nuts if you ask me.
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