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Old 04-10-2011, 11:10 AM
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EOM wheel question

I have a Ltd with the std. polished aluminum wheels. This is my first vehicle with this new type of wheel where there is no rim or lip and the therefore the spokes are flush, thus the wheel weights are adhesive.

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1) Do the adhesive weights stay on better than the older hammer on weights?

2) Do the 3rd party tires shops have special equipment so as not to scratch the flush surface of the wheels while mounting and dismounting tires?

3) What are your comments on this? Thanks.
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:52 AM
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I have a Ltd with the std. polished aluminum wheels. This is my first vehicle with this new type of wheel where there is no rim or lip and the therefore the spokes are flush, thus the wheel weights are adhesive.

Questions:

1) Do the adhesive weights stay on better than the older hammer on weights?

2) Do the 3rd party tires shops have special equipment so as not to scratch the flush surface of the wheels while mounting and dismounting tires?

3) What are your comments on this? Thanks.

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My last car (BMW 330ci) and my new Summit both had/have stick on weights. I never had a problem with them coming off. The hammer-on weights are just an eye sore IMO and scratch up your nice wheels.

Most reputable service centers now have tire mounting machines that will not scratch up your wheels(I think the mounting componenets are plastic), but don't assume anything. Always ask if they have the equipment to do premium wheels, and make sure you ask for sticky weights. I had one place put the hammer-on weights on my BMW's $700 wheels.... Not only did it look like crap, but hey ended up scratching my wheels.

Also, if your Limited came with wheel locks, make sure they don't use the impact gun on them. I've had my locks damaged during tire rotations.

A lot of the tires these days have an "inside" and/or "outside" label on the tire wall. I don't know if this is the case with the goodyears. I have had them mount tires backwards...
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Old 04-10-2011, 11:59 AM
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Re: EOM wheel question

Thanks for the info. Glad I asked!
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Re: EOM wheel question

I've had plenty of stick-on weights fly off in years past, but rarely the old hammer-on kind. But adhesives get better every year.
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Re: EOM wheel question

The factory wheels are designed and come from the factory with clip on weights on the inside and tape weights on the outside (actually inside the rim behind the front face as far toward the outside as possible. All good tire stores (Discount, NTW, STS, etc) should have the modern mounting systems that will not mar the wheels and aluminum specific clip on weights for the inside of the rim. There are a couple advantages to using aluminum specific clip ons on the inside of the rime. They move the weight as far out as possible which helps with the dynamic balance and if applied properly won't come off and don't mar the aluminum (much). Discount uses tape on both the inside and outside on certain rims like my $4000 forged modular BBS but on factory cast rims I've been using inside clip ons for years without a single issue.

Make sure they do a combination of static/dynamic balance as well. That's why there are weights on the inside and outside of the rim, to manage the dynamic imbalance (only detected when the wheel is spun). On the newest Coats systems they also show the installer the static imbalance with can help them determine if they should use slightly more or less weight in any one location. It also walks the operator through wheel measurements before it allows the operator to proceed making sure they have all the right location and size settings measured. The older Hunter 9700/9800 force balancer has fallen out of favor mostly because it needs to be routinely calibrated and most shops don't take the time. It also has not shown to be as effective as some of the newer scanning machines like the new Coats 1850 are the current hot ticket.
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