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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

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Haha, the inevitable "safety feature" rant, delivered on cue.

Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion and preferences. Others who disagree with you about the alleged benefits of BSM have the same privilege.
Oh I've said nothing about their privilege, they are of course welcome to disagree with me and voice that opinion. I'm just pointing out how absurd that opinion is.

But seriously, people should remove the side mirrors from their vehicle, they're unnecessary. No one needs that kind of advanced tech and distraction while driving.

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I'm just pointing out how absurd that opinion is.
I see you advocate the use of safety systems regardless of their overall benefit. I suggest you remove the engine, fuel tank, and wheels from your vehicle, an upgrade which will provide you with unsurpassed safety while also attaining carbon neutrality. Doing anything else would imply that you prefer operating a less safe vehicle.

Note the absurdity of espousing the "safety features are unambiguously good and it's absurd not to use them" perspective.
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

Some of you folks belong in the 70's. Go buy an antique or something.
The Advanced Tech package is fantastic.
Cross Path detection is, pretty flawless and has saved a bikers bacon.
Blind Spot monitor works great too.
I've had maybe 3-4 false warnings to !BRAKE! in 12K miles and I have it on the most sensitive. It has never actually done any breaking. It's always been when some one is pulling off the road and your going straight but it doesn't know the car is pulling out of the way.

Auto high beam is awesome.

For folks afraid of new technology that will probably be mandatory in a few years you can shut most of it off. Which is pretty darn foolish if you ask me.

The rain sensing wipers are a bit strange. But I still leave them on.
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

The only safety setting I've changed is setting the FCW to near.
Other features do annoy me but I'd rather be annoyed but reminded I need to stay sharp. I'm learning to love them
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

I will admit the rain sensing wipers are almost the most annoying of them all. I haven't changed settings yet but probably will. They're so random....Super fast then 10 seconds later they take forever to wipe. I'm a tad ocd so it really gets me agitated
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Blind Spot monitor works great too.
I have gotten repeated false alarms from BSM when nothing is there (i.e. the BSM triangle in the mirror alerting repeatedly in the mirror that is on the shoulder side of the road), it never alerts me to anything that isn't visible in my properly-adjusted side mirror view already, and it provides a false alert by design when turning in the right hand lane of a two left turn lane intersection... a factor that promotes "alarm fatigue"/desensitization.

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I've had maybe 3-4 false warnings to !BRAKE! in 12K miles and I have it on the most sensitive. It has never actually done any breaking.
My FCW actually does brake incorrectly. This is a common complaint among owners. Mine has calmed down somewhat when set to "near", but if it continues to act up I'll disable it altogether.

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Auto high beam is awesome.
I agree, now that I stopped caring about blinding oncoming traffic. I just leave it on and let drivers flash their brights at me when my auto highbeams neglect to dim. The extra brightness of their "complaint flash" typically gets the system to detect them and dim itself. I got flashed by oncoming traffic no less than 6 times during a single 250 mile drive the other night due to my auto highbeams not dimming as these drivers approached. And those were just the 6 who cared enough to flash, *not* the number of drivers it failed to dim for. It used to bother me that I was blinding traffic with the ineffective auto highbeams, but then I decided it wasn't my problem.

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For folks afraid of new technology that will probably be mandatory in a few years you can shut most of it off. Which is pretty darn foolish if you ask me.
Cool, I guess you don't mind false alarms from safety systems that freak out or mind getting blinded by my insensitive auto high beams (HID illumination FTW!)

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The rain sensing wipers are a bit strange. But I still leave them on.
I don't use wipers at all for rain, thanks to aquapel. However, back when I used to use the wipers I got annoyed by the lack of measured response by the auto sensing wipers (i.e. "freak out followed by under-wiping").

ACC is just awesome though. It does need to be less spastic, but I typically solve that by locking the transmission in 8th gear and canceling/resuming it whenever I change lanes in tandem with a leading vehicle, in order to avoid overacceleration followed by immediate braking.
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

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I will admit the rain sensing wipers are almost the most annoying of them all. I haven't changed settings yet but probably will. They're so random....Super fast then 10 seconds later they take forever to wipe. I'm a tad ocd so it really gets me agitated
Have you played with the sensitivity settings while you're in sensing mode?

I will admit, the rain-sensing wiper system on my M3 is absolutely better than in the Jeep, but I don't find the Jeep one nearly as annoying as everyone else does.
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

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I see you advocate the use of safety systems regardless of their overall benefit. I suggest you remove the engine, fuel tank, and wheels from your vehicle, an upgrade which will provide you with unsurpassed safety while also attaining carbon neutrality. Doing anything else would imply that you prefer operating a less safe vehicle.

Note the absurdity of espousing the "safety features are unambiguously good and it's absurd not to use them" perspective.
I have, I think, very clearly pointed out the benefit of BSM, so I don't advocate for them "regardless of their overall benefit".

But, given your suggestion re. driving a "safer" vehicle without an engine, I will do same as soon as you agree to drive without any mirrors, which I consider about as extraneous as the BSM system.
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I have, I think, very clearly pointed out the benefit of BSM
Haha, conversely, I believe you have failed to make the point you believe you made. Further, I believe I have very clearly pointed out drawbacks of BSM in practice. BSM is a "take it or leave it" type system, and it's absurd to think of it as more than that.
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

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Have you played with the sensitivity settings while you're in sensing mode?

I will admit, the rain-sensing wiper system on my M3 is absolutely better than in the Jeep, but I don't find the Jeep one nearly as annoying as everyone else does.
I think I tried but this is first vehicle I've owned with the feature, was first rain, and was more worried about driving safely so I gave up lol
But I did keep adjusting the stalk to get it to wipe sometimes. Even when set to the highest setting, it didn't seem to wipe enough one minute but fast enough to rock the Heep the next minute haha!
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

Well the BSM in my old 2012 along the system in my current 2015 have NEVER Alerted falsely! Now, they may have illuminated once or twice when there was no vehicle in my blind spot, but never have they produced a false Audible alarm.

It adds a layer of safety and security. There is NOTHING wrong with that (provided drivers still do their part when behind the wheel).

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