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Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

First some background, I once had a 2011 JGC Overland w/ Hemi. During the two years of ownership, aside from same rattles in the dash and A pillar, I didn't have any issues. It was a good vehicle but I decided to move on to a car (well, cars). Fast forward to present day, I'm looking to buy/lease a SUV and the JGC is one of three vehicles that I'm considering. While I was targeting another Overland, the dealer is offering, in my opinion, a good deal for a new MY15 Summit w/ Hemi. A 3-year lease with no money down would be $600 per month. However, I really don't want the safety features that otherwise are included (such as Brake Assist, Rear Cross-Path Detection and Blind Spot Monitoring). Can these features be disabled without pulling hardware? Ideally there would be a setting through UConnect that would enable/disable these features.

The Adaptive Cruise could remain active but I suspect that I would never use it (as I haven't used cruise control in any of my current or past vehicles).

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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

I can relate to wanting to disable features.

Blind spot alert can be disabled in uConnect. Same with rear cross path detection. I do not believe that brake assist can be disabled readily under normal operating conditions, but that's a fairly innocuous feature that precharges your brakes if it anticipates the driver needing emergency braking power. It is activated by the driver applying the brakes.

Forward Collision Warning (with optional automatic 40% braking for a few seconds before it automatically releases the brakes and sends you hurtling to your doom) is a much more annoying and finicky feature. FCW *can* be disabled in uConnect, and many owners do so as the multitude of threads about FCW can attest. I have mine set to "near" and false alarms have been essentially eliminated. If it acts up any more I'll just turn it off.

ACC doesn't need to be disabled. Simply never use it if you don't like it (personally I love it and will never own another vehicle without that feature). It is a separate steering wheel button to activate ACC; regular, dumb cruise control is activated by a different steering wheel button.

Additional annoying features that you did not inquire about that can be disabled should you desire:
  • daytime running lights
  • seat belt chimes
  • automatic lowering of air suspension when parking
  • lift gate audible alarm
  • rain sensing windshield wipers.

Additional annoying features that you did not inquire about that cannot be disabled, and FCA design engineers mock you for wanting to do so:
  • An "Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop" feature that cancels ACC mode if stopped for more than 3 seconds (this releases the brakes and allows the vehicle to begin rolling forward, in a stroke of breathtaking retardation by the design engineers)
  • an inability to force QuadraLift into Aero mode at low speed without entering Sport mode
  • inability to lock QuadraLift into Aero mode (or any other mode) at all times/conditions
  • inability to remember Sport mode after powering off the vehicle
  • seat ventilation forgetting your mode every time you turn the vehicle off
  • inability to disable the gaudy LED highlights surrounding the headlight assemblies while the headlamps are on
  • general radio retardation regarding remembering which input source you have selected
  • ...and probably several others I have forgotten to mention.

Overall, this is a fairly customizable vehicle from the factory. For example, I had been considering purchasing a Toyota 4Runner, and disabling the DRLs on that would have required cutting wires (I was prepared to do so). On the Jeep this is an option in the vehicle uConnect menu.
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

Roadkill, thank you for replying to my question. With the safety settings configurable through the Uconnect system, I feel better about (potentially) buying the Summit. Though in general, I don't like the idea of paying for features that otherwise I will not use.

I can understand your point on retaining the last setting on various modes (sport, lift position, seat temperature, etc.) but this would not be a make or break for me. Also I don't mind the bling with LED headlight trim. My current car has that and it's more prominent (vs. the JGC).



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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

For those features that you can disable, don't write them off immediately. The blind spot detection, for example, has saved my bacon a number of times on the highway when "Idjuts" weaving lanes at high speed came into the lane I was attempting to move over into legally with my turn signal on an well established. They were moving so fast, that there was no way I could as a human being notice in time to prevent an ugly accident since they were crossing multiple lanes and out of view. The bottom line is try out the features yourself and determine if they have a place in your personal driving experience.

And for the record, ACC really has become a favorite for me. I was skeptical at first, but I'm missing it dearly right now with the "vacation rental car" that doesn't have it...
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

So apparently RoadKill bought a car that is 100% annoying to him lol. Atleast that's what I gathered. I think the new Grand Cherokee is setup pretty good. I LOVE all the advanced tech features, the LED DRL's. I also personally think if the car started every time with the exact same settings from the previous drive would be pretty damn annoying. Yeah just what I wanted, my ventilated seat to be on as well as sport mode at 5:30 in the morning on my commute to work. I think the vehicle is setup pretty much perfectly and there is a LOT of customization in this vehicle like already mentioned. The most I have seen in any car anyway.
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I also personally think if the car started every time with the exact same settings from the previous drive would be pretty damn annoying.
Awesome! I bet you also wish your Jeep set itself to random radio stations each time it started up, randomly changed the volume of the system, always reset climate control to a random temperature setting, randomly enabled a blinker sometimes when you started it, and forgot your Eco Mode state each time you started up.

Variety is exhilarating and remembering your last setting is laaaaaame, amirite?
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

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Awesome! I bet you also wish your Jeep set itself to random radio stations each time it started up, randomly changed the volume of the system, always reset climate control to a random temperature setting, randomly enabled a blinker sometimes when you started it, and forgot your Eco Mode state each time you started up.

Variety is exhilarating and remembering your last setting is laaaaaame, amirite?
Strangely... my 2015 Overland does none of those things.
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Strangely... my 2015 Overland does none of those things.
I know, isn't it great that your Jeep remembers some of your recent settings from the last time it was running? The engineers should just make it consistent and have it preserve all of them.

As for most of the rest of these features, I don't care if other people want to enable their DRLs as long as I can turn mine off in the menu, etc. It's about allowing owners to effect their preferences. As I said, this vehicle is fairly customizable; however, in my other post I listed several aspects where driver preferences are not honored.

That said, the FCW false alarms and the ACC brake release aspects are unambiguously bad.
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For those features that you can disable, don't write them off immediately. The blind spot detection, for example, has saved my bacon a number of times on the highway when "Idjuts" weaving lanes at high speed came into the lane I was attempting to move over into legally with my turn signal on an well established. They were moving so fast, that there was no way I could as a human being notice in time to prevent an ugly accident since they were crossing multiple lanes and out of view. The bottom line is try out the features yourself and determine if they have a place in your personal driving experience.

And for the record, ACC really has become a favorite for me. I was skeptical at first, but I'm missing it dearly right now with the "vacation rental car" that doesn't have it...
My wife had most of the safety features in her last vehicle. Perhaps it's from the various HPDE's and Autocross events that I have participated in, I consider myself an aware driver. Though I understand I can't control the many distracted drivers that are on the road. I just believe in controlling my own car vs. the car acting on it's own. This is why I don't use cruise control. I want to be aware and in control at all times. With ACC controlling both speed, acceleration and braking, I'm not in control.

I know that I'm the exception but as overly the phrase is overly used, "it is what it is".
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

I realize that a lot of people like the features in the advanced tech package and that's fine.

For me, what I like even better than having the ability to enable/disable these features is the ability to not have to buy the package in the first place.
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For me, what I like even better than having the ability to enable/disable these features is the ability to not have to buy the package in the first place.
That would indeed be best. I want them to offer a Summit without the uConnect telematics/cellular datalink (i.e. no uConnect apps/internet remote start/911/creepy tracking by FCA/remote exploits), with no LED headlight trim, and no Jeep badging anywhere on the vehicle... especially in the back where it's recessed. While they're at it, they can delete all the chrome bling and replace it with standard body color plastic. Oh, and I'd have them build the EcoDiesel powertrain without the finicky DPF/SCR systems.

I'd keep everything else, given that I can control it myself---and the Summit offers features not found on other trim levels. Hell, I'd trade in tomorrow if I could order the upgraded package I just described... as it stands, my minority perspective just means I get to mod my vehicle. That's rewarding in itself: achieving victory by killing features you never wanted.
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Re: Features in the Advanced Tech Pkg, can they be disabled?

Thats why there is the option to get any model without options such as advance tech, ORA...etc.
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