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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

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Funny you mentioned the auto sensing high beams. I had the same experience on my first road trip on dark country roads last week. Great feature that I knew nothing about!
Yes, but too sensitive in turning the high beams off, IMO.
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

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Yeah, that headlamp indicator is crazy bright. I'm finding it distracting; guess I'll get used to it.
Also would be nice if it indicated if just the parking/running lights are on or the headlamps are on. The same indicator is used for both?
I covered mine with a small piece of black electrical tape. I left a small part of the light ray graphic exposed and all I have left is a small green dot that is the size of a period at the end of this sentence. You don't see the tape at all, even during the day. Try it, you might like it. If not just remove the tape.
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

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The black electrical tape works great! At first I was not keen on having tape on the instrument cluster but you can't see it at all night or day - problem solved.
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

I love almost everything about this vehicle. The looks, the fit & finish, the engine, the options, almost everything. My only tiny gripe is the voice recognition on the phone. It's imposssible to call someone using a command like "Call John Doe Mobile". For some reason the system prompts with 2 lines for "John Doe" and I have to select 1 or 2. Then it prompts for "Home, Mobile or Work". This happens even if there's only one entry for John Doe in my contacts. My previous vehince was an F-150 with the Sync System. I almost never had to repeat names or numbers when making a phone call.

I have the an Iphone 4s. I'm hoping there will soon be a software update for the 730N RHR to address some of these issues. I've searched various sites and there are many users experiencing the same problem. I have learned that I can use the Iphone's SIRI voice recognition to place a call. But that defeats the purpose of handsfree.

But really...that is my only complaint. Everything else is great!!!
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

3 weeks tomorrow, generally very impressed although it's not my daily driver so I don't get to enjoy it all the time. Would like to ;-)

What it's missing
- Articulating Headlights
- Power fold in mirrors and the option to set them to fold in on park via the EVIC
- Drop to park height when put in park setting in the EVIC
- Option for a greatly improved audio system, I'll pay the extra $$ for it.

What I really enjoy
- Heated stering wheel
- Ride is smooth but yet not like driving a couch
- Hill start assist
- The soft touch interior
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

Totally agree. It is much quicker to use SIRI to place the call and talk through the 730N RHR. Much quicker.
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

First 1000 miles. Overall experience - Excellent.
Only let down - whining sound from electric pwr steering pump, did taken it in to D, nothing to be done. Fortunately not heard inside the cabin - so minor issue. From outside does take away from an otherwise sophisticated feel.
Have Cloth seats, was afraid would regret - love them. (thats for others like me out there agonizing over the decision)
Have base stereo model, convn option , OR!- all perfect thus far.
No snow yet - waiting to try out OR1.
Replaced T4runner.
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First 1000 miles. Overall experience - Excellent.
I'm working on a deal for a base model Laredo; good to hear


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Only let down - whining sound from electric pwr steering pump, did taken it in to D, nothing to be done. Fortunately not heard inside the cabin - so minor issue. From outside does take away from an otherwise sophisticated feel.
What's up with that? Why can't anything be done about it?
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

I've got 2115 miles on my '12 Overland now, and this is what I noted so far.

Likes: Heated/Ventilated Seats, ACC, interior fit & finish, ride quality, Quadra-Lift/Select Terrain, heated wheel, UConnect with iPhone 4S compatibility, onboard electronics and ease of use, lack of ELDS other than on Hemi, lack of a functional roof rack or cross bars.

Dislikes: No place for trash like older ashtrays, rear license plate brow is junky plastidipped soft plastic, subwoofer is subpar, lack of folding power mirrors, storage compartment doesn't have slider on top for arm rest, lack of availability of ORA-II package other than by order, 730N NAV system needs more POI's and more frequent updates with no loss of stored locations.
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

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What's up with that? Why can't anything be done about it?
Was told thats normal for the electric motor. Hope Chrysler finds this worth fixing.
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

Couple things, I had cloth seats in my last GC and I too loved them. I was always so grateful when it was burning hot outside and the sun was blazing down on the seats and when I sat down it felt okay. Not sure about these leather seats, but I'm sure the cooling system in the seats will help.

I too was really bummed that there wasn't automatic folding mirrors. I was also bummed that there wasn't seat memory for the passenger seat too (like a Mercedes).

Overall though, I still love the new Jeep.
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Re: First 10 days- impressions, likes, dislikes?

Alright, I've pretty much had her for 10 days. I'm just over 500miles on her and loving her as the days go by.

I opted for the 2011 JGC Overland with the HEMI engine in Mineral Gray.

General Comments/Impressions:
It was difficult believing how rugged this vehicle actually is when you sit inside of it. Really felt comfortable and as if I was in an airplane. The seats are just a bit larger than required which is good because I feel more comfortable in them. I could literally drive across the border in this thing and not feel any sort of discomfort. It's hard to imagine that she's such a beast. Anyways, my likes and dislikes...

Likes:
1) Variable Suspension and Selective-Terrain
This feature is awesome. I know some people may claim it doesn't make a difference but I atleast feel a difference when I slot her into sport mode and pound away at that HEMI. I haven't tried anything else except for "rock" when I was going over some large rocks in an old abandoned area. Very responsive and doesn't take as long as one would expect to work.
2) Panoramic roof
Desert + Panoramic roof + Starry night sky = Enough said.
3) Interior
I opted for the frost/beige leather and I can tell it's of high quality. I would imagine it would do great in the summer heat over here in Kuwait. The seats are more than just comfortable, they look great too. I thought I'd have some regrets about getting the frost beige due to availability over the saddle (had to order and wait ages for that). But, I think the frost beige is equally as awesome, works especially well with my Mineral gray exterior. I did not notice much fault in the interior electronics such as the 730N U connect(if I have referenced that correct). The phone interface could be a little better as I sometimes get random numbers and lettering instead of names but that isn't such a big issue since I barely ever use the phone when I drive. Not such an important factor for me. Sound quality of the speakers/sub is not amazing but it isn't bad either. A lot better than I expected to be honest from a stock system. I feel the sound is quite crisp compared to many other new SUVs that come out (Tahoe, Armada etc). iPod connectivity is brilliant! Came withe the connection cable to so can't complain there. There are a few complaints about the interior but those will be covered in the dislikes section. I'm usually not a huge fan of the reverse cameras, but this is the first vehicle I've ever utilized the reverse camera in. The rear window doesn't seem to be large enough to cover any small kids that may pop up from behind when I reverse (my area is filled with kids that just play along the parking lot area of my house). So the reverse camera has been very helpful, also because I perceive the jeep to be bigger than it actually is (this will be explained in the dislike section)
4)AutofoldingMirrors
I guess it's because it's an export model, but mine came with the automatic folding mirrors which I've found brilliant when parking in tight areas where people have difficulty passing through. I believe it is a life saver as I know first hand from my previous SUV how annoying it is when someone hits your mirror (and the mirror actually broke once).
5) HEMI Engine
Maybe a bit controversial but I love the HEMI! It isn't the most powerful thing on the road but I don't expect that when it's carrying a 5 tonne vehicle. It has enough passing power for me when I'm on the roads and need to swing infront of someone and the rumble I get when I slam the gas pedal is just brilliant. I will be shifting to a Corsa later on but for now the exhaust works great with the engine. The towing power is great, the torque is definitely there and I can imagine could help me get out of almost any rut I can get myself into here off-road (with a little bit of off road intelligence and experience).
6) Trunk
The space is great and I love the little flashlight addition they've added. I used to use my iPhone4 and an app to emulate a flashlight, but sometimes you just don't want to use your phone as one because it looks silly for one and second it drains the battery. I am also a fan of having convenience. The flashlight gives me that option and I don't have to be "extra careful" like I would with my phone (you drop an iphone enough times and you'll hate yourself). The space in the trunk is actually a lot bigger than I expected. The under-trunk storage space is wonderful and the emergency kit I was given has velcro underneath so it sticks to the trunk and doesn't move around while I drive. The trunk comfortably carries an almost 28KG German Shepherd considering width, depth and height. The GSD loves the trunk and is actually quite a smooth ride back there so it helps ease any car sickness she has.
7) Rear seating area
Enough legroom/shoulder room/ headroom for adults. This is excellent as at times I end up driving my group of friends around. We used to take my 2000 Nissan Pathfinder over my friend's 2011 Cayenne S to the desert because sometimes he would be too worried about fixing things if something went wrong off-road in his Cayenne S. With my overland, I have no worries at all. I feel I can comfortably sit 5 people (including me) and hit the trails in Kuwait. Sure they're not actually that rough but sometimes things can go wrong, and a Cayenne S would be super costly to fix and I would assume not be able to do the same job with ease that my overland hemi can
8) Storage
At first glance, I felt there wasn't enough space to store things in compartments. Then I realized that it was all just about organizing things. I sat down and pondered what I usually store in my glove box and compartments and then started diving them to meet space requirements and logic. I not only have everything I used to have in my 2000 Pathfinder stored in their compartments, I still have a lot of room to store a bunch of other goodies in them such as cologne/aftershave/swiss army knife and some other nifty little goodies.
9) Exterior
It looks like a beast. Those who are not familiar with the WK2 (a lot of people here aren't since it isn't THAT popular, most people with JEEPS here are WK owners and most people in the city don't own a JEEP. They opt for the more flashy Audis, BMW, Porsche's and MBs. However, I've actually had someone ask me at a traffic light "what year my SRT8 is - hehe silly Audi drivers). The look is mean and aggressive, but it still holds some class. People who are not familiar with the WK2s tend to think I've done a custom job on my JEEP or that it's an SRT8. Slowly though that will change as there is becoming a slight rise in the advertising of the WK2s here in Kuwait. I love how it turns heads, even these "flashy" SUV and car drivers are eyeing her while I pull up at the light. Sometimes, just for fun I'll switch from auto to Sport mode and they'll look baffled at me whilst my suspension lowers the height hehe. PLUS MY MINERAL GRAY COLOUR IS AWESOME!! I'm really happy I switched to Mineral Gray instead of Stone White. Simply because I feel the Mineral Gray has different contrasts and complexions in different light/ambience. In my opinion, an amazing colour to have!
10) Reputation
We all buy cars for the above reasons but at the end, we buy cars/SUVS/trucks and anything else for that matter based upon our utility gains and the reputation. Is the Touareg that much less of an SUV that the Porsche Cayenne S? Not really, but the reputation and branding of Porsche allows them to add a much higher premium to their prices. I love the fact that JEEP has it's brand image as a rugged offroader, but I'm able to get all of that and luxury all in one. I was actually a guy who never really cared for luxury. Pretty much all about the ruggedness and simplicity...but now after my WK2, I couldn't imagine being without all these awesome features and luxury. Truly an excellent Vehicle.


I do have some dislikes though. They're not "HUGE" issues or even big problems per se, but they are little things that get to me.

Dislikes:

1)Tire Pressure
Damn overhead display keeps showing different tire pressure readings. It's never the same. Sometimes my back wheels are higher PSI than the front and then within the same drive it'll be vice versa. I have the 20 inch rims but I doubt that this is the reason. I guess it's just a temperature thing and that because the rims are bigger and the tires are thinner than those of 18s, the PSI tends to jump in the sensors.
2) Interior
Oh lord...I love the frost beige, looks great but it gets dirty wayyyyyyy too easily. As someone who is always active and on the go, I have to keep cleaning and cleaning and cleaning. It's not so bad after several days of usage, but it's still getting dirty. Everytime I drive home from a football match (even after wiping down and placing a towel on the car seat etc) I find myself with some marks on my interior. I clean it right away after parking so it doesn't settle but it's just something that I don't want to have to do every 2-3 days.
3) MPG
I know this is slightly silly of me since I got the HEMI engine and I live in a country where petrol basically costs nothing but I wish my MPG was a bit higher. This is the biggest sized engine I've ever owned and seeing 11-12 MPG is not satisfying. I can live with it, but it's just one of those things that I wish I could improve. I would ideally like to see about 14-15MPG but I'm not going to hold my breath on that. 11-12 MPG is alright, but I'd like to be able to boast about a 14-15MPG HEMI , though I wouldn't want that at the expense of losing power so I guess I'll just shush about this.
4) Keyfob
It keeps slamming into stuff in my pockets and I end up randomly opening the trunk, or unlocking the doors. I know it's not much of a complaint here as it's my unorganized pant compartments that are at fault. I tend to throw everything into my pockets if I'm wearing jeans. I was used to carrying everything in my cargo pants so I tend to have a bunch of stuff in my pockets. I would have liked a sort of cover like the old BMWs had on their keyfobs but I won't really call this a complaint.
5) Autoheadlights
At times, the sun is out and shining but my auto headslight are still on. Takes some time to shut off - it's not instant to the sun so I end up with headlights on for a bit during the day. I don't mind but people keep beeping and signaling to me with their hands that my headlights are on. Granted they are usually just the fog/parking lamps but still, it's annoying getting beeped and signaled at by someone on the other side of the road.
6) The plastics on the front/rear bumper/fascia.
They collect dirt/dust so easily. I clean them, wipe them down, clean them again, wipe them down, clean them again and wipe them down in order for them to stay clean. Then by the next day they've collected again. It's just me being really picky and annoying since it's still a new ride for me but just something I keep doing that is more of an inconvenience than a problem.
7) Shifting into Park
I've noticed a very subtle click noise when I put her into park. It happens in other gears, but it's most noticeable in park. Not a big issue, nothing is wrong with it but you can hear the box at work when you change. Of course I had to pay real close attention and it was brought to my attention initially by a post here. So to me it isn't that big of an issue because it isn't really an issue that will hurt my JEEP. Nor will anyone really notice it unless the music is off, the windows are rolled up, and they pay real close attention to it. I'll bring it up with the dealer next time I'm in there but from research and checking with a local garage here that my friend owns - it's nothing to worry about. (He heard it when I showed it to him and I had to point it out and do it several times for him to hear it).
8) Perceived Size and parking sensors.
Maybe because she's still new but I feel like she's a lot bigger than she actually is when I reverse. This is a perception issue as when I consult with the rearview camera I still have a lot more room. This should be taken care of veryyyyyyy soon as I'm slowly getting the hang of her actual size vs. perceived size as the days go by. This is the first time in my life Ive actually used the reverse camera and parking sensors. I don't mind the camera as I can either look at it as an aid to reversing or ignore it completely and just reverse, but the parking sensors are too darned loud. The volume level makes me think I'm going to crash even though I know I still got some room. Something I gotta get used to I guess.

All in all, those are my likes and dislikes. As you can tell, I'm being really picky with my dislikes are they are all just little inconveniences that aren't really a problem with the craftsmanship of the ride. I wouldn't consider my dislikes to be anything of a "problem" but I tried to be as honest and up front about anything I dislike in my vehicle.

Anyways, loving the JEEP and will probably stick with the brand for a long time if they can keep improving on this platform. I truly feel beastly in it. I can park her next to anything and still get the looks. I feel she's probably one of the best looking SUVs on the market, and if not then she has to be the best looking SUV on the market (bar the SRT8 haha).

Anyways, hope you liked the write up.
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