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Re: First Off Road experience in the sand..

Victor, great pictures. If you are planning on deep river crossings in future you might want to think about extending the diff breathers to be higher, so that no water is sucked in with your diff oil or transmission and transfer case oil.

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What trim level is your car? Do you have the air suspension?
Mine is a Limited 2014, its the export version, not sure if in the US the Limted comes excatly the same, foor what I've been reading mine came really complete and among other things it does come with the off road package, meaning air suspension, hooks in front and back, etc.
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Victor, great pictures. If you are planning on deep river crossings in future you might want to think about extending the diff breathers to be higher, so that no water is sucked in with your diff oil or transmission and transfer case oil.
Many thanks...but my plan is not to go any deeper !...my idea is to have fun, to get the best out of the jeep without huge modifications, its also my everyday car and I like it very much looking and running as it is...so at this time I dont think about any other mods...but rest assure I will take more off roads trips !..ha,ha...and of course when the time comes I'll share the pics.
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Mine is a Limited 2014, its the export version, not sure if in the US the Limted comes excatly the same, foor what I've been reading mine came really complete and among other things it does come with the off road package, meaning air suspension, hooks in front and back, etc.
That's awesome. Mine is also a Limited with all the toys (including off-road package, air suspension, hooks, skid plates etc) but in US you order packages that add these features as opposed to being standard.
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Victor, great pictures. If you are planning on deep river crossings in future you might want to think about extending the diff breathers to be higher, so that no water is sucked in with your diff oil or transmission and transfer case oil.
I'd liked to know more. What's involved? Have you done it to the Grand?
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Re: First Off Road experience in the sand..

The rear diff breather sits a few inches above the diff housing. You can find it by sticking your head under the rear bumper (lots of space under there) and looking through the black beam that has holes pressed into it. There is a short hose with a valve on top. Not sure where the front one is, but it looks like a breather for the transfer case(?) does run up into the engine bay.

These valves are pretty good at keeping water out, I think victor might want to look into a fording bra to cover the air intake. I doubt he will want to fit a snorkel....

edit: Oh and victor is running 20s, so I doubt he has ORAII group, maybe he has QL and after factory fitted skid plates, but likely QTII as opposed to Quadra Drive..... I wonder how his sump guard went, most stock ones get ripped off with that kind of punishment.
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Re: First Off Road experience in the sand..

the front breathers are clipped behind the engine block on a 5.7
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Re: First Off Road experience in the sand..

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The rear diff breather sits a few inches above the diff housing. You can find it by sticking your head under the rear bumper (lots of space under there) and looking through the black beam that has holes pressed into it. There is a short hose with a valve on top. Not sure where the front one is, but it looks like a breather for the transfer case(?) does run up into the engine bay.

These valves are pretty good at keeping water out, I think victor might want to look into a fording bra to cover the air intake. I doubt he will want to fit a snorkel....

edit: Oh and victor is running 20s, so I doubt he has ORAII group, maybe he has QL and after factory fitted skid plates, but likely QTII as opposed to Quadra Drive..... I wonder how his sump guard went, most stock ones get ripped off with that kind of punishment.
Well, that is true, he is on 20's but he has a Limited which also came with HIDs and air suspension. He answered a question of mine either in this thread or another one where he posted pictures. He does have the Air Suspension.

For other markets, the factory trims are different. I forgot where he is from, perhaps Uruguay ?, but here's the south American Uruguay Jeep Grand Cherokee page
http://www.jeep.com.uy/modelos
The top trim there seems to be the Limited. They might have to update their web page but the Argentinian page lists the Overland as as the top trim but the car looks like a North American Summit.
http://www.jeep.com.ar/
So who knows, their Limiteds might come with a combination of parts not available from the factory here in US.
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Re: First Off Road experience in the sand..

Fair point, we get the HIDs on all models in Australia, and Victors car has plastic finish lower rear bumper (and wheel arch surrounds by the looks), normally Limited trim. But then he has the pano roof.....

My guess is Limited with QL and sunroof optioned on, no ORAII (otherwise he'd have 18s).
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The rear diff breather sits a few inches above the diff housing. You can find it by sticking your head under the rear bumper (lots of space under there) and looking through the black beam that has holes pressed into it. There is a short hose with a valve on top. Not sure where the front one is, but it looks like a breather for the transfer case(?) does run up into the engine bay.

These valves are pretty good at keeping water out, I think victor might want to look into a fording bra to cover the air intake. I doubt he will want to fit a snorkel....

edit: Oh and victor is running 20s, so I doubt he has ORAII group, maybe he has QL and after factory fitted skid plates, but likely QTII as opposed to Quadra Drive..... I wonder how his sump guard went, most stock ones get ripped off with that kind of punishment.
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Yes, I'm in Uruguay, here its the top you can get, basically down here there arent too many options.
You are right...I dont want to fit a snorkel, it would be to much.
I did get from Mopar the original skid plates the whole set.
For my trip to the sand what Id was to take out the lower bumper, if you see the pics posted before its not there, it was a good thing to do or I would have defnitely destroyed it.
I have the double sunroof (the big panoramic one).
Here you buy the Jeep as it is, you cant order any options..they dont have any...thats why for me this forum is great as I learn what can be done, what cant be done, etc.
Not sure about the technical aspects of Quadra Drive vs QTII, here is a pic of my interior..does it help you to see what I have ?..only thing I know is that I have a Jeep and so far very much in love with it !!
Here are some pics so you see how it looks in daily city life.


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Re: First Off Road experience in the sand..

So Victor, given that you have a Limited with all the toys, you basically have the equivalent of a US Limited with the Off Road Adventure II package and Luxury package. And based on the engine choice (3.6 L V6) you appear to have the Quadra Trac II which is very good.

The Quadra-Drive II transmission is reserved for those vehicles equipped with a Hemi V8 and Diesel engines here in US and only differs from the QT-II through the addition of an ELSD on the rear axle.
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So Victor, given that you have a Limited with all the toys, you basically have the equivalent of a US Limited with the Off Road Adventure II package and Luxury package. And based on the engine choice (3.6 L V6) you appear to have the Quadra Trac II which is very good.

The Quadra-Drive II transmission is reserved for those vehicles equipped with a Hemi V8 and Diesel engines here in US and only differs from the QT-II through the addition of an ELSD on the rear axle.
Hi F1anatic, I guess you are right, here when I started looking to change my previous car (Kia Sportage) I went to the dealer..and my ONLY two options were either black leather, or white leather !, that was it, for the rest there are no options available,
My engine is a 3.6 so it seems I dont have the Quadra Drive, good to know !!..I had no idea !...
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