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First Oil Change

Had my first oil change today at the dealer and it all went well. The question I have is as part of the oil change they have a rack they pull it on that gives a print out of the alignment setting. They left it on the dash and it showed my front toe was out of spec. All the other setting were good. The thing is no one said anything to me. They gave me the receipt and said everything looks good as it should see ya next time and I went out to my vehicle. When I got in the print out was on the dash and showed the front toe in red all the rear was good and the caster was good up front. I am wondering if it just showed this because the air suspension was in normal ride height when it took the reading? It seems to drive fine and doesn't pull or drift at all. So what do you guys think? I have never gotten alignment setting with an oil change before.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:25 PM
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Just because your vehicle doesn't pull any way doesn't mean the alignment is correct. I get mine done once a year and often watch the guy do it. I get better wear out of my tires because of it.

Now saying that, first oil change is pretty early. It must be only slightly out but it would be good to keep that for the next visit. The alignment actually goes out fairly quickly and all it takes is a couple good pot holes to really have it out (not the you would feel that).
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:50 PM
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Re: First Oil Change

I have a friend who manages a tire store, and he told me today's cars are built such that you would hardly ever notice an alignment problem until your tires are just about destroyed. I get mine checked at least once a year.
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Looks like from the graph the front toe should be 0.16deg to 0.04deg and mine is about 0.18 on both the front wheels which is just outside the ok zone. I am just surprised they wouldn't say anything to me about it and I am even more surprised they would even check it with an oil change. Another thing I just noticed is the sheet says its for wk2 11 to 13 and mine is a 14 so who knows if they made some changes to the specs for 2014.
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Looks like from the graph the front toe should be 0.16deg to 0.04deg and mine is about 0.18 on both the front wheels which is just outside the ok zone. I am just surprised they wouldn't say anything to me about it and I am even more surprised they would even check it with an oil change. Another thing I just noticed is the sheet says its for wk2 11 to 13 and mine is a 14 so who knows if they made some changes to the specs for 2014.
Alignment should be the same as it is the same suspension setup... Not that abnormal for a little sag to set in after the first bit of driving (I mean suspension settle not sag in a bad way). It is good you ask about it as I agree with Jacko 100% that alignments are a yearly thing. Not only tires but you take unneeded stress off of other components. I always use the example that if your front wheels were slightly turned toward each other it would feel mostly fine and your tires would be gone in no time and that would be harsh on the tie rod ends driving down the highway. The other reason why I like to sit with the alignment guy (doesn't always work for everyone) is that he has his hands on all of those moving suspension components and sees trends and wear in the really serious stuff way early on.

But more to your situation, the toe has a fairly wide range and you are out by an extremely narrow percentage, normally the first alignment would happen getting closer to 15,000 miles. It is just something you can plan to do on the next visit. I find the alignment costs pretty cheap considering the front end guy is going to be looking way more closely at stuff than one of the other "inspections" they offer.
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Re: First Oil Change

When I got new wheels for my challenger I went to have the front end checked just in case. My shop said it is so out of align they could not fix it. I had to take it to the dealer. All 4 were out of align. This was after only around 500 miles. I don't think they check them as they leave the factory. They set them close and let the dealers deal with it.
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When I got new wheels for my challenger I went to have the front end checked just in case. My shop said it is so out of align they could not fix it. I had to take it to the dealer. All 4 were out of align. This was after only around 500 miles. I don't think they check them as they leave the factory. They set them close and let the dealers deal with it.
Oh boy, Marlon would be offended... absolutely the alignment is set at the factory. Now that isn't to say that something didn't happened at some point.... had a Jimmy at one point the steering wheel came about 15 degrees off centre. Dealership wouldn't fix it because the factory setting allows for a slight amount t of settle..... yes I pointed out 15 degrees wasn't going to sort itself out but still.

Anyway tons of things affect alignment, this is why it should be checked often and especially if you know you jumped a curb or hit a deep pothole.
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