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Old 11-24-2015, 05:12 PM
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

I have had both and for me it was without a doubt the V8...and I don't even tow or offroad. I just wanted it for the sound and added performance. Fuel economy will be a few less, but overall its not terrible. I have logged every fillup since new and have been around 17 without even touching a highway. When I had my Pentastar that was in the 19's. So again, not too terribly different. It all comes down to your preference though. I'm not sure if all the bugs have been worked out, but the 8spd with the V6 seemed to have all the issues. The V8 8spd is a different unit and has been extremely solid! They say its the same 8spd gearbox used in some other high end vehicles. BMW M6, Range Rover Sport, one of the Rolls Royce models (forget which one) to name a couple.

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Old 11-24-2015, 05:25 PM
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

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Thanks, for all the responses everyone this has been immensely helpful. Personally, I could live without the front parking sensors since I don't have them on my car now. Same goes for the noise cancelling and adaptive headlamps. I would probably also opt for the QDII in the Overland vs the blacked out look of the High Altitude as I can always black out the Overland afterwards.

That said, here is the million dollar question: would you rather have a comparably equipped Overland (w/advanced tech pack, QDII, HK, etc) w/the HEMI or a Summit w/the Pentastar? Configured in this way, the Overland actually becomes more expensive (albeit only by $485). Just thought it was worth a mention.

My heart is saying HEMI after having a V8 in my last two trucks (and that throaty growl is hard to beat) but my brain is saying I might have to compromise somewhere and the gas mileage will be better. I also test drove the Pentastar, today and man that thing is pretty effin' smooth but the pulling power on the highway I felt could be better (not saying it's bad, though).

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Since you are already as high as you are in the dollars just get the v8 summit. the v6 gives some better mileage but not substantially better the thing I would consider more is the upfront cost, the v8 is roughly about 3.5k more depending. but if you are on the fence on engines get the v8 or you will likely regret it latter. if engines arnt that important of a thing to you then get the v6. Also keep in mind QDII is not available on any v6, you get QTII. QDII is standard on v8/diesel summit an option on v8/diesel overland and not available at all on HA. Also the front/rear parking sensors have actually been one of my favorite features I could careless about the swivel headlights but those front/rear parking sensors let me stuff that jeep into the tightest of parking garages, places id never try to put my last sedan, that's just a personal preference though.

if you are going to be doing more harder core off roading the overland does have a more easily removable front airdam than summit and an 18 inch wheel option that are a little better off road its called the ORAII package.

my only advice is since you are looking at the dollar level you are to spend don't skimp out and not get something you want and then regret it later over a couple thousand dollars. Good Luck
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

Definitely go with the V8. Won't regret it. However, gas mileage sucks big time though, especially if you drive in the city (I mean real city driving, not out in the burbs).

I barely get 10-11 mpg in the city. Highway can be as high as 22-23mpg though.
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

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Thanks, for all the responses everyone this has been immensely helpful. Personally, I could live without the front parking sensors since I don't have them on my car now. Same goes for the noise cancelling and adaptive headlamps. I would probably also opt for the QDII in the Overland vs the blacked out look of the High Altitude as I can always black out the Overland afterwards.

That said, here is the million dollar question: would you rather have a comparably equipped Overland (w/advanced tech pack, QDII, HK, etc) w/the HEMI or a Summit w/the Pentastar? Configured in this way, the Overland actually becomes more expensive (albeit only by $485). Just thought it was worth a mention.

My heart is saying HEMI after having a V8 in my last two trucks (and that throaty growl is hard to beat) but my brain is saying I might have to compromise somewhere and the gas mileage will be better. I also test drove the Pentastar, today and man that thing is pretty effin' smooth but the pulling power on the highway I felt could be better (not saying it's bad, though).

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I've had my 2015 V6 Summit for about 4 months now. I am not real happy with my city mpg of around 14 but on a recent tround trip from SF to LA I got about 23.5 so that is good. I would have got the V8 but I didn't want to shell out the extra $3.5K when I bought it.

I think it's a personal preference between Overland and Summit because of the differences in appearance and some features. I preferred the look of the Summit and everything it came with including the soft fuzzy headliner.
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

It was just brought to my attention that the High Altitude does NOT offer the wood steering wheel like in the Overland or the Summit despite offering the front parking sensors. That's a non-negotiable for me (for very vain, personal reasons) so I guess it's back to Overland vs Summit.

Thanks, again for everyones responses. In an ideal world I would pick up a Hemi Summit w/the platinum series group in granite crystal metallic for what I'd like to pay on a 36mos lease. I'm willing to "settle" (if you can even use that term) for a Hemi Overland w/advanced tech pack, QDII, & HK in billet silver w/the indigo blue interior, though

We will see how much dealers are willing to deal on the '15s in a few months (my timeframe, anyway) once the '16s drop. Will definitely report back!
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Old 11-25-2015, 12:50 AM
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The High Altitude interior is the main reason I bought one. Black stitching, anodized silver bezels, and the glossy black and gray wood applique is absolutely beautiful.
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

Don't be expecting there to be a lot of 2015's "on the lot" in a few months. Jeep, unlike many manufacturers doesn't dump inventory on dealers...every Jeep that comes off the line (about 70% of the up to 1200 a day out of Jefferson North ... the rest are Durangos) is already sold; either as a factory order for a specific customer or for actual dealer orders. Ordering for MY2015 already closed awhile back and MY2016 production starts in about a month if things hold. If you want a MY2015 and are leasing, there are some pretty good incentives and deals to be had "right now".
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

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.....I have narrowed it down to two choices: lease a '15 Summit (w/HEMI) with the hopes that since the 16's are right around the corner I can get a stupid good deal (and hoping there isn't too much change on the 16's to make me want that), or buying a pre-owned '14 to avoid taking the upfront depreciation hit..........
This is the only part I'm not getting. If you're considering leasing, why would you be concerned about depreciation? If you lease you're going to experience 100% depreciation. Because when the lease ends you've got to give the car back, and walk away with nothing.
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Jeep has no problem selling every GC they build. The deals to be had are somewhat disappointing for what you'd expect.

The Summit also has more acoustic glass. Different leather on the seats and the seat cushions are supposedly softer.

Go with the Hemi. The powertrain is more reliable and if 2mpg is going to hurt your wallet, you should probably consider a cheaper vehicle altogether.
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This is the only part I'm not getting. If you're considering leasing, why would you be concerned about depreciation? If you lease you're going to experience 100% depreciation. Because when the lease ends you've got to give the car back, and walk away with nothing.
Your question is a good one. Depreciation is important to someone who's leasing as it has impact on the calculated residual value at the end of the lease...and that goes into the subsequent lease payment calculation.
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Yep a lease is pretty much financing the calculated depreciation.
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My school of thought is that either way (most likely) I will turn the car in (if leasing) or trade/sell it (if buying) after a few years, anyway. By leasing, I can walk away clean and start fresh with something else or if buying certified/pre-owned, it limits the possibility of having to deal with negative equity.
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