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Hey everyone, first post here but I've been lurker for a little while. Seeking some advice from current WK2 owners (particularly Summit owners) but first, a little background: I had a 5.9 limited (miss this car so much) for a few months back in the early 2000's and unfortunately my brother totaled it while I was away in college so that was that. Currently driving a 3rd gen Escalade...nothing wrong with it, but her age is starting to show and the technology (or lack thereof) is rather antiquated and getting a bit long in the tooth.

That said, I'm potentially in the market for a new car in the coming months and, after much back and forth contemplation between various models (new and used), keep coming back to the GC Summit. The feature set is the epitome of fully loaded and relative to comparable models both in and outside of it's segment, it is exceptional value for the money IMO. For reference, I have also considered new/used Lexus GX, Range Rover, MB ML-class, etc.

I have narrowed it down to two choices: lease a '15 Summit (w/HEMI) with the hopes that since the 16's are right around the corner I can get a stupid good deal (and hoping there isn't too much change on the 16's to make me want that), or buying a pre-owned '14 to avoid taking the upfront depreciation hit. I'm leaning towards the lease option simply because it gives me something brand new and under warranty, and because I tend to have the desire to switch cars every few years. Ideally would like 36 mos, 12-15k miles/yr for $600 or less (my current payment +/-)...I wouldn't mind putting money down up front but would prefer not to on a lease. Not really sure if this is realistic and I can't really deep dive the numbers just yet since my wife and I are closing on a house soon (can't pull credit until afterwards). And yes, I have considered an Overland/High Altitude but the Summit just seems to be packed to the gills without having to add options and offers certain things not available on the Overland/HA (correct me if I'm wrong): the HK stereo, the suede/alcantara headliner, adaptive headlights, illuminated door sills, etc. I can certainly live without most (except the HK stereo) but they'd be nice to have.

Thoughts/opinions on what type of deal I could get on a lease or what I should look for if buying pre-owned? I've never negotiated a lease before but am fairly familiar with the concepts of MSRP, cap cost, residual, money factor, etc. I've also read that there are not many lease/incentives for Summits and more for Overland/HA. Is this true? There are at least 10 dealerships (many of which I'd assume are "high volume") within a 25 mile radius of where I live...not sure if this is a good or a bad thing but at least it gives me the ability to shop around. Sorry for the long post but hoping to get some great insight from all the WK2 owners here (bonus points if you're in DC metro, also)...thanks, in advance!

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If it's the HK stereo you can't live with out, just get the Overland. HK became available on the later model 2015's. I missed out on that option as I ordered mine in July of 2014. It shows up as a $795 option when configuring online.
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

The Summit is great and like you said it has it all. HK is optional on the Overland, but like you said some of the other things you just can't get.
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If it's the HK stereo you can't live with out, just get the Overland. HK became available on the later model 2015's. I missed out on that option as I ordered mine in July of 2014. It shows up as a $795 option when configuring online.
Thanks, for your reply. Other than what I listed (headliner, adaptive headlights) are there any other features exclusive to the Summit not available on the Overland? I built out an Overland online with advanced tech pack, QDII, and the HK system. That should be almost 100% comparable, right?
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

Front parking sensors, different wheels, different bumpers/side skirts.

You can get basically everything on the summit with the High Altitude package on the Overland, and it gets rid of a lot of chrome.
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

Also, I think there is an interior and exterior color exclusive to the Summit.
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Thanks, for your reply. Other than what I listed (headliner, adaptive headlights) are there any other features exclusive to the Summit not available on the Overland? I built out an Overland online with advanced tech pack, QDII, and the HK system. That should be almost 100% comparable, right?
Front park sensors, suede style headliner, adaptive headlights, exclusive to Summit interior colors, active noise cancellation on Summit, better sound deadening, and obviously all the exterior changes.
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Hey everyone, first post here but I've been lurker for a little while. Seeking some advice from current WK2 owners (particularly Summit owners) but first, a little background: I had a 5.9 limited (miss this car so much) for a few months back in the early 2000's and unfortunately my brother totaled it while I was away in college so that was that. Currently driving a 3rd gen Escalade...nothing wrong with it, but her age is starting to show and the technology (or lack thereof) is rather antiquated and getting a bit long in the tooth.

That said, I'm potentially in the market for a new car in the coming months and, after much back and forth contemplation between various models (new and used), keep coming back to the GC Summit. The feature set is the epitome of fully loaded and relative to comparable models both in and outside of it's segment, it is exceptional value for the money IMO. For reference, I have also considered new/used Lexus GX, Range Rover, MB ML-class, etc.

I have narrowed it down to two choices: lease a '15 Summit (w/HEMI) with the hopes that since the 16's are right around the corner I can get a stupid good deal (and hoping there isn't too much change on the 16's to make me want that), or buying a pre-owned '14 to avoid taking the upfront depreciation hit. I'm leaning towards the lease option simply because it gives me something brand new and under warranty, and because I tend to have the desire to switch cars every few years. Ideally would like 36 mos, 12-15k miles/yr for $600 or less (my current payment +/-)...I wouldn't mind putting money down up front but would prefer not to on a lease. Not really sure if this is realistic and I can't really deep dive the numbers just yet since my wife and I are closing on a house soon (can't pull credit until afterwards). And yes, I have considered an Overland/High Altitude but the Summit just seems to be packed to the gills without having to add options and offers certain things not available on the Overland/HA (correct me if I'm wrong): the HK stereo, the suede/alcantara headliner, adaptive headlights, illuminated door sills, etc. I can certainly live without most (except the HK stereo) but they'd be nice to have.

Thoughts/opinions on what type of deal I could get on a lease or what I should look for if buying pre-owned? I've never negotiated a lease before but am fairly familiar with the concepts of MSRP, cap cost, residual, money factor, etc. I've also read that there are not many lease/incentives for Summits and more for Overland/HA. Is this true? There are at least 10 dealerships (many of which I'd assume are "high volume") within a 25 mile radius of where I live...not sure if this is a good or a bad thing but at least it gives me the ability to shop around. Sorry for the long post but hoping to get some great insight from all the WK2 owners here (bonus points if you're in DC metro, also)...thanks, in advance!
I was in a similar situation. Chose the High Altitude over the Summit w/ CA Package because I prefer the blacked out look. The HA is kind of in between a standard Overland and Summit.

The only thing the Summit has the HA doesn't is the adaptive headlights and noise cancelling. HA has the front parking sensors, headlight washers, HK stereo, side skirts, and rear skirts.

I basically traded the adapative headlights and noise cancelling in exchagne for the blacked out look. When I test drove the summit, I couldn't tell the difference for the noise cancelling. Chicago is pretty much a grid, so didn't think the adpative headlights are really going to be all that useful.

Can't go wrong with either choice though.
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Re: first post, seeking advice from current owners!

Thanks, for all the responses everyone this has been immensely helpful. Personally, I could live without the front parking sensors since I don't have them on my car now. Same goes for the noise cancelling and adaptive headlamps. I would probably also opt for the QDII in the Overland vs the blacked out look of the High Altitude as I can always black out the Overland afterwards.

That said, here is the million dollar question: would you rather have a comparably equipped Overland (w/advanced tech pack, QDII, HK, etc) w/the HEMI or a Summit w/the Pentastar? Configured in this way, the Overland actually becomes more expensive (albeit only by $485). Just thought it was worth a mention.

My heart is saying HEMI after having a V8 in my last two trucks (and that throaty growl is hard to beat) but my brain is saying I might have to compromise somewhere and the gas mileage will be better. I also test drove the Pentastar, today and man that thing is pretty effin' smooth but the pulling power on the highway I felt could be better (not saying it's bad, though).

Thoughts?
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I just leased a '15 High Altitude (essentially a Summit when it comes to features and price) last week with the 5.7L V8 and HK audio. $54,300 MSRP.

I traded in my '14 Grand Cherokee Overland, didn't hand the dealership a single penny, and walked out with my '15 High Altitude for $640/mo. My first lease payment was made with the rebates. So I literally paid nothing at signing.

So good deals can be had.
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