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Exactly my question. I got stuck with a 2014 JGC V6 for a month as a rental vehicle and hated it. The only thing decent about the V6 is the gas mileage, but it has zero power at all. Hell, my first car ever was a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi Eclipse and it had better acceleration than the V6 jeep. I currently have a 2014 Jeep SRT and the 2014 Jeep Overland with the 5.7 and they are night and day better than the V6.
So sorry you had to get "stuck" with the same vehicle most of us here drive lol To say the V6 has no power is kind of ridiculous when it has the same 7-8 second 0-60 acceleration as 90% of the other cars on the street today. And the Hemi Grand Cherokee isn't much less of a dog than the V6. Even the SRT isn't lightning fast in today's standards unless you go from a stop. No matter what way you look at it the V6 and V8 acceleration is fairly comparable, people here just have a hard time admitting it. Infact it pains me to admit that my wife's new Honda Odyssey feels every bit as quick as my Hemi Summit...that is tough for me to swallow but the fact is its true. I guess it seems weird arguing about standard model Grand Cherokees being "fast" so I'll do you all a favor and keep out of his thread now.

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So sorry you had to get "stuck" with the same vehicle most of us here drive lol To say the V6 has no power is kind of ridiculous when it has the same 7-8 second 0-60 acceleration as 90% of the other cars on the street today. And the Hemi Grand Cherokee isn't much less of a dog than the V6. Even the SRT isn't lightning fast in today's standards unless you go from a stop. No matter what way you look at it the V6 and V8 acceleration is fairly comparable, people here just have a hard time admitting it. Infact it pains me to admit that my wife's new Honda Odyssey feels every bit as quick as my Hemi Summit...that is tough for me to swallow but the fact is its true. I guess it seems weird arguing about standard model Grand Cherokees being "fast" so I'll do you all a favor and keep out of his thread now.


You can't even compare the V6 0-60 at 8 seconds to the SRT 0-60 in 4.2. These two vehicles aren't even in the same league. I'm sure compared to a lot of vehicles the V6 jeep might feel powerful, I guess I'm just used to the SRT, where anything else feels weak. Granted it's not the fastest thing on the planet, but it's incredibly fast, especially considering it's a 5,300lbs SUV. I've got a YouTube channel dedicated to mine blowing the doors off 5.7 Chargers, 350Z, 5.0's, and even a Corvette. I'm not above anyone either, it took me a while to work and save the kind of money I needed to have what I do.


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Exactly my question. I got stuck with a 2014 JGC V6 for a month as a rental vehicle and hated it. The only thing decent about the V6 is the gas mileage, but it has zero power at all. Hell, my first car ever was a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi Eclipse and it had better acceleration than the V6 jeep. I currently have a 2014 Jeep SRT and the 2014 Jeep Overland with the 5.7 and they are night and day better than the V6.

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Comparing a over 2 ton vehicle with a v6 to a sport compact that tips the scales under 2900#'s and then complaining that the jeep has no power? Really guy? Even if you had a eclipse gsx (you know, the 210hp 4g63 turbo) it still makes less power at the crank then the pentastar makes at the wheel.

Your logic is flawed. Obviously a smaller lighter car will "feel" faster then any suv on the road
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Comparing a over 2 ton vehicle with a v6 to a sport compact that tips the scales under 2900#'s and then complaining that the jeep has no power? Really guy? Even if you had a eclipse gsx (you know, the 210hp 4g63 turbo) it still makes less power at the crank then the pentastar makes at the wheel.

Your logic is flawed. Obviously a smaller lighter car will "feel" faster then any suv on the road

And here comes strongjeff with his infinite wisdom. Dude, you don't think I know that?? A V6 jeep has 290 hp with maybe 210 to the wheels. It is slow, period. 0-60 in about 3 days. We all know you're proud of your "SRT6" and apparently it bothers you greatly if someone else doesn't quite have the passion for a weaker engine as you do. Bottom line is a V6 will never have the power of a V8 (let me clarify, we are talking about Jeeps.. I don't want to hear you say "but the GTR"...) unless you put a blower on it and even then it still won't be as powerful as a stock 6.4. And no, a small eclipse wouldn't ever feel faster than an SRT, because it's not, no matter the weight. It would be a joke to put the two side by side. And my eclipse was a four cylinder not a 6, had you read what I wrote you would've known that.


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Wow, that thing literally is a tank!

So far all I have been able to find is that the Hemi 5.7 weighs about 485 pounds. I don't know what all this includes or doesn't include, and I wasn't able to find any stats on the Pentastar.
At least it's a lot lighter than the 426 Hemi which was about 700 lbs. on the scale. HP and Torque are about the same, since back then (1970) they used a different way (Gross vs. Net) to rate HP and Torque.
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And here comes strongjeff with his infinite wisdom. Dude, you don't think I know that?? A V6 jeep has 290 hp with maybe 210 to the wheels. It is slow, period. 0-60 in about 3 days. We all know you're proud of your "SRT6" and apparently it bothers you greatly if someone else doesn't quite have the passion for a weaker engine as you do. Bottom line is a V6 will never have the power of a V8 (let me clarify, we are talking about Jeeps.. I don't want to hear you say "but the GTR"...) unless you put a blower on it and even then it still won't be as powerful as a stock 6.4. And no, a small eclipse wouldn't ever feel faster than an SRT, because it's not, no matter the weight. It would be a joke to put the two side by side. And my eclipse was a four cylinder not a 6, had you read what I wrote you would've known that.


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actually I did read what you wrote but apparently you cant seem to remember it. go read what I wrote. I specifically said 4 cylinder, no mention in my response did I ever say you had a v6. so here, let me remind you what you said down below. and why would you ever thow me in the gtr fanboi camp? I cant stand the GTR. also I never compared your eclipse to the srt, I was specifically commenting on the fact you think the v6 is underpowered

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Exactly my question. I got stuck with a 2014 JGC V6 for a month as a rental vehicle and hated it. The only thing decent about the V6 is the gas mileage, but it has zero power at all. Hell, my first car ever was a 4 cylinder Mitsubishi Eclipse and it had better acceleration than the V6 jeep. I currently have a 2014 Jeep SRT and the 2014 Jeep Overland with the 5.7 and they are night and day better than the V6.


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best get your story straight before you come at me and quit assuming you know me because I have a v6 myself. mine will straight up eat your little rice burner you had
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You can't even compare the V6 0-60 at 8 seconds to the SRT 0-60 in 4.2. These two vehicles aren't even in the same league. I'm sure compared to a lot of vehicles the V6 jeep might feel powerful, I guess I'm just used to the SRT, where anything else feels weak. Granted it's not the fastest thing on the planet, but it's incredibly fast, especially considering it's a 5,300lbs SUV. I've got a YouTube channel dedicated to mine blowing the doors off 5.7 Chargers, 350Z, 5.0's, and even a Corvette. I'm not above anyone either, it took me a while to work and save the kind of money I needed to have what I do.
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And here comes strongjeff with his infinite wisdom. Dude, you don't think I know that?? A V6 jeep has 290 hp with maybe 210 to the wheels. It is slow, period. 0-60 in about 3 days. We all know you're proud of your "SRT6" and apparently it bothers you greatly if someone else doesn't quite have the passion for a weaker engine as you do. Bottom line is a V6 will never have the power of a V8 (let me clarify, we are talking about Jeeps.. I don't want to hear you say "but the GTR"...) unless you put a blower on it and even then it still won't be as powerful as a stock 6.4. And no, a small eclipse wouldn't ever feel faster than an SRT, because it's not, no matter the weight. It would be a joke to put the two side by side. And my eclipse was a four cylinder not a 6, had you read what I wrote you would've known that.
Ugh, I so bad wanted to stay out of here, but no I never compared the SRT to the V6. Its always been about the V6 to the 5.7 V8. You were the one that brought the SRT in the mix here. Come on man I'm not stupid I have owned an SRT, I have owned the 5.7, I have owned the V6. I know the V6 would be a joke against the SRT..Hell, I have owned cars that would run circles around a 13 second SRT... and I know its hard to swallow, but the SRT really is just a 13 second vehicle. A lot of family sedans can do that these days...Anyway, my point is why do you have to come into this thread and put down the vehicle that most members on this site own? The V6 WK2 is not fast, it never was intended to be, but to call it a joke, or that it takes days to get to 60? Considering what it is it actually moves fairly decently and only marginally slower than the 5.7 at best. Lets just hope you don't have to go through the agony of being stuck in a WK2 V6 loaner again though. I don't even know how this thing gets me to work everyday

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At least it's a lot lighter than the 426 Hemi which was about 700 lbs. on the scale. HP and Torque are about the same, since back then (1970) they used a different way (Gross vs. Net) to rate HP and Torque.
That's crazy!! My 2006 Z06 vette had the 427 LS7 engine and I swear that thing was a light weight. I'll have to look up the stats on that engine, but even though it is still an "old school" pushrod engine, I bet it weighed half what that Hemi engine weighs!
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Ugh, I so bad wanted to stay out of here, but no I never compared the SRT to the V6. Its always been about the V6 to the 5.7 V8. You were the one that brought the SRT in the mix here. Come on man I'm not stupid I have owned an SRT, I have owned the 5.7, I have owned the V6. I know the V6 would be a joke against the SRT..Hell, I have owned cars that would run circles around a 13 second SRT... and I know its hard to swallow, but the SRT really is just a 13 second vehicle. A lot of family sedans can do that these days...Anyway, my point is why do you have to come into this thread and put down the vehicle that most members on this site own? The V6 WK2 is not fast, it never was intended to be, but to call it a joke, or that it takes days to get to 60? Considering what it is it actually moves fairly decently and only marginally slower than the 5.7 at best. Lets just hope you don't have to go through the agony of being stuck in a WK2 V6 loaner again though. I don't even know how this thing gets me to work everyday

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That's crazy!! My 2006 Z06 vette had the 427 LS7 engine and I swear that thing was a light weight. I'll have to look up the stats on that engine, but even though it is still an "old school" pushrod engine, I bet it weighed half what that Hemi engine weighs!

12.8 1/4 mile... But who's counting. I brought it up because someone was comparing the V6 to the V8, and they aren't comparable, regardless if it's the 5.7 or the 6.4.


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Me too. I have had a few cars with HUD. I really like that feature. That's why I thought I may have missed an new option available for the GC.

I loved that option on the SS I test drove. Another great car Chevrolet killed too soon.


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12.8 1/4 mile... But who's counting. I brought it up because someone was comparing the V6 to the V8, and they aren't comparable, regardless if it's the 5.7 or the 6.4.


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it depends on the situation. straight up acceleration the 5.7 is only slightly quicker. sure the 5.7 makes more power but honestly the difference between the 5.7 and 3.6 is only truly noticeable when towing and at lower speeds.

who's comparing a 3.6 to an srt anyway?


but since you, in a earlier post said "unless you put a blower on it" I feel you should go talk to Ajag. another member here. id put money on his 3.6 walking on your almighty 6.4
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actually I did read what you wrote but apparently you cant seem to remember it. go read what I wrote. I specifically said 4 cylinder, no mention in my response did I ever say you had a v6. so here, let me remind you what you said down below. and why would you ever thow me in the gtr fanboi camp? I cant stand the GTR. also I never compared your eclipse to the srt, I was specifically commenting on the fact you think the v6 is underpowered



best get your story straight before you come at me and quit assuming you know me because I have a v6 myself. mine will straight up eat your little rice burner you had

Dude, get over yourself. I'm an asshole now? My story is straight... You've commented on almost every post I've made in any topic. You get your feelings hurt easily dude, always getting up in arms any time someone says something you don't agree with, as a Soldier myself... It speaks volumes. And that "rice burner" was a piece of crap, I was 17 and paid cash for it as a first car. And yes, the V6 is weak in comparison to the V8, regardless if its the 5.7 or the 6.4... You're only kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You specifically mentioned the eclipse GST (v6) as well, just thought I'd correct you on the same thing twice.


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